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nathanv
21st Aug 2014, 12:20
I am looking at the process of converting my ICAO ATPL to EASA and will need to do a skills test on a Q400 sim. Before committing time and money I would like to see if there are any freelance examiners who do testing on the Q400 in the UK?
Thanks
NV

S-Works
21st Aug 2014, 20:44
It can't be done freelance. Needs to be done through an organisation with a training approval.

Dangerous_D
22nd Aug 2014, 15:35
The Flybe training Academy in Exeter might be able to help you. Although they say they offer courses to operators only, but could be worth a ring.

Flybe Training Academy :: Pilot Training (http://www.flybetraining.com/pilot-training)

nathanv
24th Aug 2014, 09:08
Thanks for the replies, I tried Flybe but they don't do any third party testing, they will dry lease the sim, but without an examiner I am stuck. Flightsafety want me to do a full recurrent at a cost of about £7000.
Bose-x please help me understand why an ATO needs to be involved, the CAA website says I need to write the exams and perform a skills test. Surely then all I need is a sim and an appropriately rated examiner? I am obviously not too familiar with the way things work in the UK so any info will be appreciated.

S-Works
24th Aug 2014, 20:10
Because it's the way it is under EASA. Any EASA rating requires a course completion certificate even if no training has taken place. This can only be issued by the Head of Training of an ATO with the required approval.

For you to add the rating to your EASA licence you need to go to an organisation with the approval to train for it. The head of training will then issue the course completion certificate and the examiner will issue the test paperwork.

What do you the this is, the FAA? :p

BillieBob
25th Aug 2014, 08:17
Try reading the regulation:

FCL.030 Practical skill test

(b) Except for the issue of an airline transport pilot licence, the applicant for a skill test shall be recommended for the test....

There is, therefore, no requirement for a course completion certificate in this case. However, this is only what the Regulation says and does not allow for any gold plating that the UK CAA may wish to apply.

S-Works
25th Aug 2014, 10:41
I have sat I my inbox a reply to me as Head of Training from the CAA in response to exactly the same question stating that everything must go through an ATO. Is that gold plating? Probably. If you find a way to get them to agree to something different then please share it as it will benefit me as well.