Jabiru down in Brissie!

[Desert Flower]

TV news is reporting a Jabiru down in Runcorn, Brisbane. Looks to be on a soccer field or similar, & powerlines around. One wing off, but pilot & passenger got out okay.

DF

[Flying Binghi]

They is a solid little bus..:cool:

By how much did it miss the school..:rolleyes:












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[Avgas172]

CH9 Today show morning news .... it's a Cessna Plane just a mini Cessna Jabiru variety I suppose .....

[Jack Ranga]

A jabiru had an engine failure? GTFOutaH! No way! Another paddock housing a jabiru?

[Desert Flower]

CH9 Today show morning news .... it's a Cessna Plane

Lol yes - I heard that too! And the word Jabiru is clearly written on the side of the aicraft.....:ugh:

DF.

[onetrack]

It's a good thing those Jabs have a strong, crash-resistant cabin. They need it, with the reliability record of Jab engines.
Jack, it looks like we're well on the way to the point where every paddock in Australia sports a deceased Jab engine monument.

Light plane crashes in Runcorn, south of Brisbane (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/light-plane-crashes-in-runcorn-south-of-brisbane-20140730-zyc99.html)

[Jack Ranga]

onetrack, another paddock, another Jabiru ;)

[TBM-Legend]

Shut down Archerfield to stop these crashes will be the next call...

[solowflyer]

Aim for the goal posts to knock off some speed if too fast. Must of missed that lesson. Good effort though to the pilot.

[Homesick-Angel]

I say any landing you can walk away from , AND any in which a jabiru can never fly again is a good landing.. Should be more like it...:D

[601]

"During their training they are informed of this field and also the procedures if they've got too much speed is to aim for the goalposts to try and take the speed off," he said.

I was under the impression that you land first before hitting, at LOW speed, posts, trees or whatever is at the other end of the field.:=

[zlin77]

There used to be a saying in Europe, "If you want your own F-104, just buy an acre of land and wait!", maybe we should substitute Jabiru for F-104….

[dubbleyew eight]

I wonder how long it will be before pilots travel en masse to Bundaberg to kick the arses of the designers of that engine.
if a bloody volkswagen conversion can run until it wears out there is absolutely no excuse for Jabiru engines not to do the same.

C'mon Jabiru get your arses into gear and fix the problems in that engine design.
there is no excuse at all for the failure rate in those engines.

oh phuck, smack on the wrist, those engines are CAsA approved. How could I question what CAsA have approved. silly me.

[Squawk7700]

The 6 cylinder isn't certified, the 4 cylinder was / is.

This one was a 6.

Jabiru have recently responded by updating their service manually by saying that anyone inspecting, servicing or overhauling their engines must be an RA-Aus L2 or a LAME which suggests that owner non-mechanics are causing these issues. If this one was online then it will be maintained by one of these which may potentially disprove this theory.

[tellerto]

Actually Squawk, the engine on 24-7984 is a 4 cylinder, not a 6.

[dubbleyew eight]

which suggests that owner non-mechanics are causing these issues.

sounds like bollocks to me.
jabiru think lots of things. pity they can't make their design robust.
a proper plenum cooling baffle system would help too.

btw my thoughts are that the only way this engine will ever be sorted out is if it is raced.
oh thats right. we can't have air racing in this country. CAsA are afraid of it.

[deadstick1]

It was a J170-c, meaning it is the four cylinder and has a CASA type certificate. Interestingly it has the jabiru fibreglass scimitar Ground adjustable prop fitted, which is not approved for the C models, so might well be a D...

[Squawk7700]

I retract my comments about it being a 6, I was advised by the peanut gallery that it was a j230.

Deadstick, aren't all j170's and the later 160's LSA and not certified models?

[deadstick1]

7700, as far as im aware all C models are type certified, ie J160-C, J170-C, The D models are the factory built LSA aircraft with a Special type certificate. In a nutshell Casa is the authority for the C models and Jabiru are the engineering authority for the D models.

[Squawk7700]

I'm almost certain that late in the piece the 160's were all D models and all 170's were D models too with the 170 never type certified.

Whilst it doesn't really matter much, it does matter to CASA particularly if it was a fault of the aircraft although I saw it in the news that they are blaming a lack of go-go juice.

[cowl flaps]

Was it def. the donk ****ting itself, or did it just run outa go juice ??

[Jetjr]

Outa fuel is commented on elsewhere

Awesome job landing there and repairable id say, two living occupants, pretty good outcome but feel free to knock the brand

[chuboy]

It has come to light that this very aircraft ditched in a paddock only12 months ago, after an engine failure :rolleyes: Owned by Pathfinder Aviation at Archerfield.

[cbradio]

It won't link from my phone but the other one is on YouTube.

[PaulGa]

It was a 6 so no need to retract.:ok:

[MakeItHappenCaptain]

And another one down on a golf course at Mildura this arvo...
I've flown rotaxes across the ditch, but I won't do one circuit in a Jabbapoo.

Btw, Pathfinder's was professionally and correctly maintained at AF.

Silk purse, sow's ear....:cool:

[Desert Flower]

And another one down on a golf course at Mildura this arvo...

Damn things seem to be attracted to paddocks, golf courses & the like! ;)

DF.

[Tinstaafl]

Well, the solution is easy! Never fly a Jab over an open area. Confine all operations over built up areas & things should be be fine.

[Capt Quentin McHale]

Methinks the Jab engine reliability has been done to death here and elsewhere, and yes I wouldn't go near them either.


BUT, my question is.... and taking into account the running out of fuel theory.


What was the EXACT position of the fuel selector at the time the engine had a little cough???


Just curious...


McHale.:hmm::hmm:

[Squawk7700]

The Jabiru fuel selector has two settings only.

On and Off.

[Capt Quentin McHale]

You are indeed correct Squawk7700.


The intent of my question was to throw Human Factors/pilot error into the equation...


McHale.