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Pininstauld
10th Jul 2014, 14:56
Does anyone know where the power comes from for an airport to mandate NADP 1 / 2 departure profiles (e.g. as at Paris CDG, Madrid MAD etc) ?

The procedures are defined in ICAO DOC 8168 Vol 1 and are referred to in JAR-OPS Rule 1.235, also EASA OPS CAT.OP.AH.130, but these rules deal with the responsibilities of an aircraft operator:- how many NADP profiles can it have and need for compliance with safety, etc.

Where the mandatory use of NADP is described in the AIP, was this enforced by the local airspace regulator, or the airport operator, who?

In the UK the CAA has written volumes on the subject of noise but seems to be mute on ICAO noise abatement departure profiles.

west lakes
10th Jul 2014, 21:10
Likely contract T&Cs

Airport "Ah Pininstauld Airlines, you wish to purchase some slots at our airport and use our facilities?"
Airline "yes"
Airport "Well one of the T&Cs is that all your aircraft, in normal operations, must operate to our established NAPD profiles at all times otherwise contract penalties will apply."

Pininstauld
11th Jul 2014, 08:18
I can see how it works if the airport already has that policy. But if I want my local UK airport to adopt NADPs and it is apathetic towards, or actively against them - who can pull the lever? And under which Act? e.g. DfT, CAA, a Court ruling? How did it happen at MAD and CDG?

Longhitter
11th Jul 2014, 09:25
Most of the time a (local) government decrees that aircraft must use NADPs and bases it on environmental law. That is the case in France and Switzerland for example. Non-adherence is then punishable by law and authorities in both of those countries regularly fine the commanders of aircraft and/or their companies for it.

Pininstauld
11th Jul 2014, 14:06
Section 70(2)(d) Transport Act 2000.

Pininstauld
12th Jul 2014, 13:21
Possibly you are right. But what else is there?

Satellite Man
14th Jul 2014, 06:59
NADPs are based on a law passed by the Spanish government (the link is in Spanish):

BOE.es - Documento BOE-A-2011-12611 (http://www.boe.es/buscar/doc.php?id=BOE-A-2011-12611)

There is further legislation that regulates this matter in depth.

Apparently a commission is created by LEMD (Madrid airport) and the Infrastructure Ministry (Ministerio de Fomento, which is responsible for airport operation). The commission discusses the areas affected by noise and then decides the noise abatament measures to take.

Many departures from MAD fly over certain areas that are inhabited and have complained about noise for years. These areas are not densely populated and I dont know if the houses where there before or after the SIDs that fly over them were approved. What I know is that the neighbours were exposed to very high levels of noise day and night and they made a lot of noise about it too, to be heard by the Ministry.

Satellite Man
30th Jul 2014, 19:42
Apart from putting NADP procedures in practice, I think airports should be careful with the noise levels passengers are exposed to.

For instance, there are airports where passengers walk to the airplanes that are closer to the terminal. Does anyone take into account that these passengers are exposed to dangerous noise levels? Does anyone think that while personnel working on the platform is provided with noise protection (high attenuation earmuffs at least) passengers are not?

I think there is room for improvement in the field of noise protection and noise attenuation at and around airports.