DC-8 landed BN Tuesday 1730L ish...?

[Inbound On Descent]

Only caught a glimpse of her on final as we taxied to the bay. Anyone know the who/what/when/where?

Inbound

[onehitwonder]

Based in Brissy sits on the southern apron

[4 Holer]

Government to Government contract.

[Username here]

I'm pretty sure that's the aircraft that got the chemtrails contract...:}

[XPT]

there's a DC8 freighter that's been flying building material to Nauru regularly for a Brisbane building company who's been building accommodation for illegal refugees.




Think it's called Construct.

[4 Holer]

Commonwealth Government says Beats a 737 three to one weight and $$$.........

[mates rates]

Our taxes at work !!

[Angle of Attack]

Based in Brissy I only saw it fly overhead Colmslie departure runway 19 the other day at about 2000ft, the sound made me do a double take, I knew it was a oldy, and even with the engine upgrades it left a nice brown smudge behind it, not as good as the old days though...

[Inbound On Descent]

Beaut!

Thanks all.

Inbound :ok:

[dodo whirlygig]

"Our taxes at work !! "


Yes, but less of them if


"Commonwealth Government says Beats a 737 three to one weight and $$$......... "


is correct.

[Square Bear]

Since you mentioned 737's, ...we know what happened to your 737-200's, but what ever happened to your 737-400F.

[Skystar320]

737-400F was repossed I believe?

[Square Bear]

Thanks Skystar for the update.

Must say the -400F looked quite nice with the HeavyLift paintwork, suited the 737 aircraft quite nicely.

Is the DC8 operating under the old HeavyLift company as well, or is there a new company?

Cheers

[jarden]

This should answer your question:

SkyBus Jet Cargo (Las Vegas McCarran) has deployed its first DC-8-73CF, N807DH (msn 45990), into revenue service. The freighter is being wet-leased to Heavylift Cargo Airlines (HN, Brisbane Int'l) who have based it out of Port Moresby. The DC-8 was recently ferried from Victorville to the Papua New Guinean capital via Honolulu.

Skybus Jet Cargo wet-leasing a DC-8-73F to Australia's Heavylift Cargo - ch-aviation.com (http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/21205-skybus-jet-cargo-wet-leasing-a-dc-8-73f-to-australias-heavylift-cargo)

[tourismman]

However it is based in BNE since December not POM.

[tartare]

Out of interest - anyone know what it's re-engined with?

[markis10]

4x CFMI CFM56-2C1

[601]

However it is based in BNE since December not POM.
Based or just o/n BNE.

[markis10]

Dont think its spent a night anywhere but BNE since December, the flights are day trips.

[Square Bear]

The freighter is being wet-leased to Heavylift Cargo Airlines (HN, Brisbane Int'l)

Got me thinking about the proverbial Phoenix.

BTW, where is the DC-8 registered, any chance it is VH?

[thorn bird]

"BTW, where is the DC-8 registered, any chance it is VH?"


VH !!!!..good grief man these people bought it here to make money, not p..ss it up against the wall on CAsA fees and Bullsh...t!!
New Zealand registered maybe...but Australian......

[Traffic_Is_Er_Was]

It's Peruvian registered. OB2059P

[BPB737]

Another flag of no real over sight Peru, do you really think that NL would ever subject his operation to rules and regs, just likes to burn people along the way ie OZJET staff , stiffed them for wages, super and annual leave plus the ground support people.
While CASA doesn't grow a pair and stop these people from operating in OZ , only a matter of time before it falls out of the sky !!!!

[4 Holer]

I think its the national carrier of Peru 11 x B737 pax and combi RPT plus DC8-70 freighters all CAT1 FAA part 121 ?
Same South American Regs (RAPS) rules and regs as LAN Chile and Aerolineas, Most of South America is one region the same as the EU includes Peru/Brazil etc.
I believe the South Americans built the EMB series aircraft that your domestic Virgin operate built under the same RAP and FAA regs ?
A "Yank" friend of mine is on contract flying the 737-300/500s for them says they seem like a normal airline.

[BPB737]

Got nothing to hide put it on OZ register at least the oversight is here and regular Flt/Ops and engineering audits not like the oversight of this operation on the other side of the world, have the Peruvian regulators been in OZ and had a look at their operation or at least had a look at the aircraft and maintenance?

[SIUYA]

BPB737...

Another flag of no real over sight Peru

Got nothing to hide put it on OZ register at least the oversight is here and regular Flt/Ops and engineering audits not like the oversight of this operation on the other side of the world

You obviously have reason to make those statements, but...

Peru demonstrated effective implementation and above-average implementation for legislation, organisation. licensing, operations airworthiness and accident investigation in its last USOAP Audit in 2007.

Air navigation services and aerodromes were slightly below the global average though.

All the same, Peru actually scored better at implementation of licensing, operations and airworthiness than Australia did.

http://cfapp.icao.int/fsix/safety.cfm

[BPB737]

Missed the point about NL and how he operates and how he has been for years burning people along the way!

[LeadSled]

Got nothing to hide put it on OZ register at least the oversight is here and regular Flt/Ops and engineering audits not like the oversight of this operation on the other side of the world, have the Peruvian regulators been in OZ and had a look at their operation or at least had a look at the aircraft and maintenance?

BPB737,
Nobody in their right mind puts an aircraft on the Australian register, if they can possibly avoid it. Strangely enough, sensible people do not believe there is any necessity or moral obligation to voluntarily subject themselves to equality of misery under CASA.

Strangely enough, Peru is a solidly FAA Cat. 1 nations, and unlike Australia, has not been threatened with downgrading to Cat. 2 because of an inept national regulator like CASA.

Tootle pip!!

[chimbu warrior]

at least had a look at the aircraft and maintenance?

Not interested in taking sides in a slanging match here, but all I can say is that it appears to be in excellent condition. Having seen quite a number of aircraft of South American origin, I can vouch for their high standard of maintenance.

[Fris B. Fairing]

Nobody in their right mind puts an aircraft on the Australian register

Particularly if it's coming to the end of its useful life and is a first of type on the register.

[BPB737]

I give up,
Sure Peru has such an outstanding record for aviation safety if you don't count the RPT jet accidents.
As far as CASA goes, they can be at times difficult but I will take our system anyday ,Don't really remember an RPT jet crash in OZ.

Wonder who the F/O co-owner of VH-EDC was?
ATSB Investigation report 9401043


I think you mean Investigation number: 199401043 (http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/1994/aair/aair199401043.aspx), although I fail to see the connection between that event and the current topic?

Tail Wheel

[Square Bear]

It's Peruvian registered. OB2059P

Being operated by an Australian company, based some 7,000 miles away from the country of registration must allow for great regulatory oversight!!

Seems the Wikipedia article re HeavyLift Cargo needs to be updated:

HeavyLift Cargo Airlines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeavyLift_Cargo_Airlines)

A feature of the airline is that most of its aircraft are not registered in Australia, but in the Philippines

[VH-Cheer Up]

Wonder who the F/O co-owner of VH-EDC was?
ATSB Investigation report 9401043Not posting names here, but you should find the answer in this Youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMrDdnRiCgg) around the 2:53 minute mark.

[4 Holer]

In reference to the actual post subject the mountains and altitude conditions and terrain in South America are MUCH MUCH more demanding than the sunny skies and flat land of Australia there are many more flights and people.


Many US carriers have also been lost in Sth America Kalitta B747 F out of Bogotá hot/high engine out middle of the night and American Airlines B757 into Columbia.


Can't find a Heavylift Cargo Airlines or web etc the wiki must be out dated, the group shows liquidated many years back.

Hiding under the desk now incoming......

[BPB737]

That was interesting never seen that before , I heard the F/O flying was the one and only NL is that correct?

[4 Holer]

VH CU, had a look seems like a text book ditching good job, did they get a medal from the USA for saving everyone like Captain Sully from the A320 in the Hudson they beat him by 20 years ?

[virgindriver]

I have seen the DC8 getting around Brisbane a bit lately. I have to admit that it looks pretty cool...

[DanielFoster]

http://planeimages.net/i/G1tkmB6xznw1 (Here's a photo I took of it a few weeks ago...)

[Traffic_Is_Er_Was]

How did Heavylift get connected to this operation?

[VH-Cheer Up]

Plane Images - OB-2059-P Climbing out for Nauru by Daniel Foster (http://planeimages.net/i/G1tkmB6xznw1)Nice shot - little bit of vortex streaming over the top of the wing. DC8 Porn... :)

[boaccomet4]

As a boy I was intrigued with the sound the engines or the
DC8. would make. Equipped with either Pratt and Witny'jd9 or General Electirc eneinges, Anyway they use the air start motors.
AS the airstart gets underway pone could hear the various howl being emitted from the start motor. Mechanics called it the "High Low" system;.
Always fascinated. As a Boy I would think that the aircraft was getting excited because is was about to fly. Each airstart unit would wind up to a crscending howl.

[backtrack26]

What's the current status ? Still present (parked?)...?

[onehitwonder]

Airborne ex BNE heading back to KL

[backtrack26]

Thanks for the update!

[EGNT]

Heard a couple of rumours that she is enroute Ostend? There's also mention if this in the Freight forum.

Any info?

[4 Holer]

hear US Military IRAQ, along with N606AL.....

[onehitwonder]

Chapman freeborn taken over?

[EGNT]

Seems they have 'operational control' according to their Facebook page. Thanks for the info

[Tubular Bells]

It really is a pretty aircraft and would be a hoot to fly. I am sure it was the one we were seeing in Port Moresby about a year ago. I guess it was parked there to avooid parking fees.

[Bort Simpson]

XPT,
you can't have illegal refugees. You can have illegal immigrants. You can have legitimate refugees. Also, you can have asylum seekers who are eventually sorted out to be either legitimate refugees or illegal immigrants.


You have mixed up the terms, plain and clear.

[hydroplane]

OB-2059-P is grounded.
Don't worry a new one comes to Aussieland
Australia's Heavylift Cargo to source another DC 8 freighter - ch-aviation.com (http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/32992-australias-heavylift-cargo-to-source-another-dc-8-freighter).
Has Nick L. moved to Ostend? Hope he locks his office doors during his absence.

[LeadSled]

BTW, where is the DC-8 registered, any chance it is VH?

Nobody in their right mind would even give a second's thought to trying to put an aircraft like that on the Australian register --- nobody could afford the cost, in time or $$$$, and the vastly increased operating costs, even if you were successful in getting it flying with a VH- rego.

It is on the US register.

Tootle pip!!

[onehitwonder]

touche, maybe the new changes will help

[onehitwonder]

What ever happened to the DC8?