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Genghis the Engineer
28th Apr 2014, 21:53
Not the groundschool books, the ones about the flying exercises. For example...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412B8PN0CVL._SX342_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PzFZxi3UL._SY445_.jpg

Or electronically...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZCllRIImL._SY355_.jpg

(There, that was impartial wasn't it?)


Anyhow, question to the instructors who have had their students use one or more of these books - presumably instructing reading up on exercises before flying them, then just using the brief as a recap and Q&A session.

Do they help? Would you recommend using books or software like this, and if so what's your favourite, and how do you find they work best?

G

Whopity
29th Apr 2014, 07:14
You missed out Birch and Bramson, the original manual.presumably instructing reading up on exercises before flying them, then just using the brief as a recap and Q&A session. No, these books are useful preparation for the student, but only that. You the instructor should give a full pre-flight brief on the exercise to be taught together with a check of understanding, them teach them what you have briefed. The books were written to sell books not to teach students how to fly. The end product is only as good as the preparation.

Whether the preparitory material is in book or electronic format makes little or no difference, the idea is that the student comes prepared for the next exercise so that you don't have to go off at a tangent and teach them lots of additional theory. The PPL theoretical training is now so far removed from the flying that it can generally be regarded as useless and represents nothing more than another obstacle in the licencing process.

As for which one, they are all much of a muchness largely copied from the same source. This one (http://www.ontrackaviation.com/shop.html) is much better

mad_jock
29th Apr 2014, 08:04
They work for some students and not for others.

Some use them post lesson and others pre-lesson.

As whopity says your briefs are the same if they use them or not.

Personally there was a school copy of both the AFE and the Thom in the coffee area. And those that browsed it and liked it bought a copy and those that didn't, didn't.

I never instructed anyone to purchase it.

wiseguy89
30th Apr 2014, 06:50
I feel maybe you should make your own briefs, as in get all the info from the above books, and structure a brief that suits you so you are able to get the point across to the student 100%.
If you look up CAA New Zealand, they have some really nice briefs for the student to refer. Some instructors directly use those as they are good and some make their own ones from the CAA NZ.
You should check those out.
Regards

mad_jock
30th Apr 2014, 09:39
its not really they way they are used.

They tend to be an extension of the Instructor brief with also more in depth theory behind things along with additional diagrams.

Some people like to turn up with all the info in there heads already so they don't get a head explosion during the brief.

Others like to revisit the lesson afterwards and then link what they experienced with what's in the book.

And others are quite happy doing neither.

Its just a fact that people learn in different ways, if any of the options works for an individual its perfectly normal and nothing unusual for different students to progress using any of them.

The problem only occurs when instructors try and force their method of learning onto students and are inflexible to their students needs.