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dawgweed
11th Feb 2014, 19:32
In a recent newspaper story on the new control tower in Manchester there is a picture of a headset being worn. What is the brand name and type of that headset and is that particular headset generally liked by ATCOs? Anyone have any other headsets that they like?

Manchester Airport's new control room with a 360º view - Manchester Evening News (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-airports-new-control-room-4712471)

Squawk 7500
11th Feb 2014, 19:35
Sennheiser HME 46

They're not great given the alleged price. Some ATCOs like them, most don't.

Request Orbit
12th Feb 2014, 08:10
They're exceptionally brittle for the price.

hammerthrower
12th Feb 2014, 16:17
Yep, Sennheiser HME 46. Very expensive and rather unreliable. Lots of ATCO's seem to have issues with them. I beleive the headset of choice is the old AirLite 100.

fisbangwollop
12th Feb 2014, 20:13
I am on my 10th replacement in only 3 years, reliability has been very poor as far as I am concerned! :confused:

Gonzo
12th Feb 2014, 20:38
I find the HME46 really rather painful to wear with my specs for more than an hour.

I have a standing request in with Tels for any Airlite they may find!

Talkdownman
12th Feb 2014, 21:37
I have a standing request in with Tels for any Airlite they may find!
I've got one in gold doing nothing...

dawgweed
12th Feb 2014, 22:45
We use Plantronics; but sounds like we have all the same issues, either that or the grass is greener...

Glamdring
12th Feb 2014, 22:48
We've got loads of Airlites north of the border :cool:

chiglet
12th Feb 2014, 23:38
When I woz at Manch .... The headset were ok. Nice and light. The leads weighed a ton, however

Hempy
13th Feb 2014, 07:17
Plantronics....I knew one guy who refused to use anything other than a Sennheiser (despite it's lack of a bungee lead) because of the "sound quality"..... It's not Mozart!!

kookabat
13th Feb 2014, 09:04
And the bungee lead's critical - how else am I supposed to reach the chocolate drawer!!

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
13th Feb 2014, 09:21
Headset leads are critical. Chap I new nearly strangled himself playing armchair football when it wrapped round his neck!

CAA/NATS and predecessors have never got headsets "right" since the days of the Jetlite in the early 70s. They did trials and a survey to see which would be the best replacement. I had friends in Tels and they told me that the Ministry had already purchased a couple of thousand Astrolites so I noted this on the survey form, which resulted in an invite to the boss's bit of Axminster to be told I wasn't "playing the game" (God Bless you Mr MB). Guess what? We all ended up with Astrolites.

If it's any consolation, the headset I wore in IAL in the 60s weighed 2 ounces including the lead!

Vercingetorix
13th Feb 2014, 09:57
Astrolite Headset with one earpiece castellated, the other not and voice communication in one ear and RTF in the other ear plus the castellation let one hear the Crew Chief and other assorted Bods all at the same time. As close to perfection as possible. Multi tasking capability to the Nth degree. Also very robust. They get my vote.

mebur_verce
13th Feb 2014, 15:14
Plantronics MS260 is becoming the standard in ENAV (Italy).

windowjob
13th Feb 2014, 16:59
HD wrote "If it's any consolation, the headset I wore in IAL in the 60s weighed 2 ounces including the lead!"

One day at LL he got fed up with the heavy long lead on his headset and shortened it himself. Only problem was he went too far, it was great sat down but when he stood up/leant back the lead was so short it nearly took his ears off as it came off! :rolleyes:

Mooncrest
13th Feb 2014, 17:07
Astrolite every time. By no means the cheapest headset but robust, comfortable and relatively easy to repair. It's a great shame Racal stopped manufacture as its successor, the flimsy rubbery Jetlite, wasn't a patch.

Talkdownman
13th Feb 2014, 18:35
when he stood up/leant back the lead was so short it nearly took his ears off as it came off!
That was happening at LATCC. One could unwittingly taxy a castor over the generous lead, stand up to do something (most things in my case…) and mid-transmission the castor would violently rip one's hat from one's head knocking out all the cocked-out strips in the process. If one was really unlucky one could catch one's shirt buttons under the edge of the radar console and tear one's shirt off too…that's if you hadn't already caught your sleeve in the huge ashtray…(Nothing that wasn't cured with a bit of compulsory tap-dancing…)

I think the Jetlite's were the ones where the rubber mic holder changed state and the mic would fall out mid-transmision. My vote is for the Stratolite with the huge plug that one could play conkers with...

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
13th Feb 2014, 19:10
WJ.... I love you too!

Mooncrest
14th Feb 2014, 18:10
Incidentally I have a Sennheiser HME45, the predecessor to the 46. Very light in weight and high quality sound from the earphones. The microphone itself is also high quality. The Achilles heel is the mic boom itself which is rather flimsy with a somewhat loose joint to the earphone housing. The old Airlite 71 was pretty good. I still say the Astrolite is the best.

055166k
15th Feb 2014, 11:10
Amplivox Jetlite issued 1/11/72 on my cadetship. Stores number 10A CA 7258....still got the fibre box in the garage, will of course hand it in when I retire together with moth-eaten Duffle Coat remains, Board of Trade shovel, and Sea Boots stockings pairs one and spectacles anti-glare stores number ZX 010 010.

Talkdownman
15th Feb 2014, 12:09
moth-eaten Duffle Coat remains, Board of Trade shovel, and Sea Boots stockings pairs one
Where on Earth did you need that lot, L?

eastern wiseguy
15th Feb 2014, 12:55
Obviously he had a summer posting to EGPD......

Lon More
15th Feb 2014, 16:40
or NMU at Gatwick

Plazbot
15th Feb 2014, 18:05
Never worked tower but for Enroute, arrivals and approach these are by far the business in my opinion....

Robot Check

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
15th Feb 2014, 19:42
Wouldn't be OK in major units in the UK as two earpieces are needed. For R/T, both earpieces are used but when a phone call is made one earpiece is switched to phone.

Plazbot
15th Feb 2014, 21:14
You do know planes fly outside the M25 right?

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
16th Feb 2014, 07:07
I was talking about all the major units in the UK - certainly all NATS units and more besides.

Mooncrest
16th Sep 2014, 11:49
Just bought an ex-Manchester airport Jetlite. Broadly similar in appearance to the Airlite 100. It's a bit too light and loose which makes it fall off my head quite easily but otherwise looks ok despite my previous remarks on this thread. I shall try to improve the fit before using it in our deicing trucks this winter.

1Charlie
22nd Sep 2014, 03:08
Where having major troubles with our wireless plantronic headsets. Random failures and open mics. They were a cool idea but wont be around for long.