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invertedspin10
12th Oct 2013, 13:51
I currently hold a JAA PPL which I need to revalidate by February 2014. I have done enough hours to revalidate it but my question is as follows
does the 1 hour with an instructor have to be done by an EASA instructor in a EASA aircraft or can it be done by a CASA on in an australian registered aircraft. Im living in Australia and am hoping i can get it all done over here.

Curtis E Carr
12th Oct 2013, 15:14
From Annex I to Commission Regulation (EU) No 1178/2011:

FCL.740.A Revalidation of class and type ratings — aeroplanes

(a) [...]

(b) Revalidation of single-pilot single-engine class ratings.

(1) Single-engine piston aeroplane class ratings and TMG ratings. For revalidation of single-pilot single-engine piston aeroplane class ratings or TMG class ratings the applicant shall:

(i) within the 3 months preceding the expiry date of the rating, pass a proficiency check in the relevant class in accordance with Appendix 9 to this Part with an examiner; or

(ii) within the 12 months preceding the expiry date of the rating, complete 12 hours of flight time in the relevant class, including:

— 6 hours as PIC,

— 12 take-offs and 12 landings, and

— a training flight of at least 1 hour with a flight instructor (FI) or a class rating instructor (CRI). Applicants shall be exempted from this flight if they have passed a class or type rating proficiency check or skill test in any other class or type of aeroplane.

From AMC/GM to Part-FCL:

GM1 FCL.005 Scope

INTERPRETATIVE MATERIAL

(a) Whenever licences, ratings, approvals or certificates are mentioned in Part-FCL, these are meant to be valid licences, ratings, approvals or certificates issued in accordance with Part-FCL. In all other cases, these documents are specified.

(b) [...]

(c) [...]

You do not state which country issued your JAA licence. If it was the UK, the following taken from the CAA website may be of interest:

Crediting of flying hours to comply with the requirements for recency and revalidation by experience.

Some licensing privileges - notably the SEP rating - may be revalidated by flying experience in the appropriate class of aircraft. With the 2012 amendment the UK Air Navigation Order will render a Part-FCL licence as valid for non-EASA aircraft that are within the ratings on the licence (Annex II aircraft and non-military State aircraft). For compliance with the experience requirements for revalidation (and recency requirements) as applicable for any rating on a Part-FCL or UK national licence, the CAA will accept hours flown in any aircraft (EASA or non-EASA) of the applicable class.

invertedspin10
13th Oct 2013, 12:01
Thanks. My PPL was issued by the CAA so if I read it right I can use the hours on a non EASA aircraft. it doesnt specify if the instructor needs to be an EASA one or not ?

Prop swinger
13th Oct 2013, 12:45
The registration does not define whether or not an aircraft is an EASA aircraft. An EASA aircraft is any aircraft type that would have an EASA CofA if it were registered in an EASA state, so a PA28 / Cessna 172 is still an EASA aircraft even if it is in Aus & has a VH registration. The CAA rule allows hours in other aircraft, eg homebuilds, to count towards re-validation.

The second quote by Curtis, the interpretive material, points out that an FI is only an FI for EASA purposes if (s)he has an EASA FI certificate. So, no, an hour with an Australian instructor will not count (unless he has an EASA FI as well.)