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modelman
29th Aug 2013, 07:52
Having trawled CAP804 (unsuccessfully ) and still awaiting response from CAA, hopefully I can find an answer here please.
After a. 2 year flying lapse, I renewed my licence and SEP last year along with Class 2 med. Medical about to expire ( I'm 56) but I notice I have still have another year as LAPL medical. How is it possible to switch to LAPL to get the benefit of a 2 year med and also ( I believe) fly 6 hours per year to keep SEP rather than 0 in first year and 12 in second year. I rent aircraft from a UK FTO ( C172/152 Grob115, PA28 etc).
Any helpful advice most welcome.
Thanks

justmaybe
29th Aug 2013, 16:41
Convert your current licence to either EASA PPL or LAPL. Haven't had time to check fully, but my understanding is that the LAPL is then embedded in the PPL and the LAPL 'medical' can be used to exercise the LAPL privileges.

Level Attitude
29th Aug 2013, 17:48
After a. 2 year flying lapse, I renewed my licence and SEP last year
So you have a JAA PPL? This is now deemed to be an EASA PPL for regulatory
purposes - but would need to be changed for an actual Lifetime EASA PPL
before the 5 year expiry date.

I have not rechecked the regs for this Post, but from what I remember:

Neither an ATPL, CPL nor PPL contain LAPL privileges. A separate LAPL
Licence would be required (and this could be your only Licence, as you
are not allowed to hold more than one Licence per aircraft category).

So a PPL with "LAPL Medical" is not a valid Licence.

An LAPL is a Licence to fly a particular category of aircraft (in this case
SEP within certain limitations).
There are no Ratings attached that would require revalidating/renewing.

However, to exercise the privileges of the Licence you must meet certain
experience requirements before any/every flight as PIC (within last two
years 12 hours as PIC plus one hour with an Instructor?).
This could be a bit confusing to calculate leading to inadverdent illegal flying

According to the rules, as currently written, even a Proficiency Check with
an Examiner does not reset the experience requirements.

I suggest you continue with PPL plus Class 2 Medical for another
couple of years and then decide (after all EASA matters, including LAPL
issues, have settled down) what type of flying you want to do and therefore
what Licence might be the most appropriate for you.

modelman
29th Aug 2013, 21:57
Believe it is EASA PPL small blue book as my 5 year JAR FCL had expired before I resumed flying ( I had to take a test with examiner). Is the EASA PPL licence mon expiring then, can't check as I am away for 2 weeks. I have another year to run on my SEP so if I make no attempt to 'convert' to LAPL will need 12 with 1 with an FI. I'm purely a leisure flyer so trying to get biggest bang for my buck. Thanks for replies so far