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reverserunlocked
4th May 2002, 14:30
A BAC 1-11 has crashed in Kano in Nigeria, according to BBC News 24.

It was on a domestic flight and crashed on approach to the city of Kano. There were 105 souls aboard, and reports suggest only 2 survivors.

The aircraft came down in a residential area, sparking fears of further casualties on the ground.

gaga1976
4th May 2002, 15:25
Just heard about a crash in Nigeria. News didn't say much, and I have some friends flying there on a wet lease, so I would appreciate any info you might have (like a/c type and company)
Thanks

RickPhucked
4th May 2002, 15:30
Air crash in northern Nigeria


An aircraft carrying at least 75 people has crashed into buildings in Kano in northern Nigeria, as it approached the city's airport.
Black smoke could be seen rising from the airport at Gwammaja just north of Kano, reports said.


Firefighters and rescuers are at the crash site, which is in a densely populated residential area.

Witnesses quoted by Reuters said at least two survivors were taken from the wreckage of the BAC 111-500 aircraft.

Airport officials said the plane belonged to a private Nigerian airline, EAS, which operates a regular service between Kano and Jos in central Nigeria.

Residents said that as the plane came into land, it hit a building and ploughed through two other buildings before coming to a halt and bursting into flames.

Correspondents say air safety standards in Nigeria are often criticised by passengers, while some foreign embassies have forbidden staff from flying on some domestic airlines

But there has not been a major air disaster since 1996 when 142 people died when a Boeing 727 owned by Nigeria's ADC airline plunged into a lagoon outside the commercial capital Lagos.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_1968000/1968300.stm

Airbubba
4th May 2002, 15:55
Nigerian jet crashes into homes
May 4, 2002 Posted: 11:45 AM EDT (1545 GMT)

KANO, Nigeria (CNN) -- A Nigerian airliner on a domestic flight has crashed into buildings in the northern city of Kano.

The airliner hit a densely populated residential area, a spokesman for the Kano governor's office told CNN.

Ibrahim Ado said the EAS Airlines (Executive Airline Services) plane had just taken off from the Kano airport en route to Lagos in southwest Nigeria when it crashed in the neighbourhood of Gwammaja.

Reuters reported that 105 people were on board.

Witnesses told Reuters that at least two survivors were taken from the wreckage of the BAC 1-11-500 aircraft, which crashed and caught fire.

Residents told Reuters that the plane hit a building, ploughed through two other buildings, came to a halt and then burst into flames.

Black smoke could be seen rising from the area of the crash, reports said.

"There is a massive mobilisation to evacuate residents of the area," a Gwammaja resident told Reuters. Firefighters and rescuers were on the scene, trying to pull survivors from the wreckage.

Because the crash occurred in a densely populated residential area, the casualty toll was thought likely to rise.

Air traffic controllers could not say at this stage what caused the disaster, Reuters said.

The last major Nigerian air crash occurred in November 1996, when a Nigerian Boeing 727 flying from Port Harcourt to Lagos crashed, killing all 142 passengers and nine crew members.

Nigeria deregulated its airline industry in the mid-1980s and many companies sprang up to challenge the monopoly of state carrier Nigeria Airways.

Concerns have been raised about the use of older aircraft used by the dozen or so local airline companies. Only last month the Nigerian government announced a ban on the use of aircraft older than 22 years, a move that triggered strong protests from private local airline operators.

EAS Airlines is one of several airliners servicing the country's domestic air routes. Between October 1998 and December 1999, the company took delivery of four BAC 1-11-500s.

RickPhucked
4th May 2002, 15:58
Nigerian airliner crashes with 105 on board
At least 116 killed in Nigeria plane crash


04 May, 2002 19:23 BST

KANO, Nigeria (Reuters) - A Nigerian airliner has crashed into a densely populated district of the northern city of Kano, killing at least 116 people, including 40 on the ground, aviation officials have said.

The airliner, bound for the commercial capital Lagos, crashed as it took off from Kano's airport, ploughing into shacks and a mosque and starting a number of fires, the officials said.

"There were 69 passengers and seven crew members on board," an official of the Federal Aviation Authority of Nigeria told Reuters, correcting earlier reports of 105 on the plane.

"All passengers and crew are feared dead," he added.

A fire service official said dozens of people were killed in their homes when the twin-engined BAC 1-11-500 operated by EAS Airlines crashed into the impoverished residential district of Gwammaja.

"Ten buildings were hit by the plane. As of now the bodies of about 40 people have been recovered from the houses," he said.

The aviation official said the plane had stopped over in Kano on a flight from the central city of Jos. Airport officials said earlier it crashed as it came in to land from Jos.

Poorly equipped fire crews and other emergency workers battled flames and thick smoke from the smashed buildings, which included a school.

A Christening ceremony was taking place in one of the houses when the plane ploughed through it, witnesses said.

The last major Nigerian air crash occurred in November 1996, when a Nigerian Boeing 727 flying from Port Harcourt to Lagos crashed, killing all 142 passengers and nine crew members.

Nigeria deregulated its airline industry in the mid-1980s and many companies sprang up to challenge the monopoly of state carrier Nigeria Airways.

Aviation authorities and passengers have raised concerns about the older aircraft used by the dozen or so local airline companies. Only last month the Nigerian government announced a ban on the use of aircraft older than 22 years, a move that triggered strong protests from private local airline operators.

EAS is one of several private airlines servicing the country's domestic air routes. Between October 1998 and December 1999, it took delivery of four BAC 1-11-500s, which are widely used in Nigeria.


http://www.reuters.co.uk/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=NSGB1VKXN5IC4CRBAEZSFEYKEEATII WD?type=worldnews&StoryID=918537

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Boss Raptor
4th May 2002, 17:37
Took off from Runway 05 at Kano, 1229Z crashed in the departure turn 1233-34Z...initially all signs appear to point to engine failure...

Stubbs
4th May 2002, 19:49
An aircraft carrying at least 100 people has crashed into buildings in Kano in northern Nigeria, shortly after taking off from the city's airport.
Eyewitnesses said they saw the plane swaying from side to side just after takeoff, and then it went into a nose dive.

It came down in a densely populated area, ploughing through several buildings including two mosques before it came to a halt and burst into flames.



See below for full story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_1968000/1968300.stm

lomapaseo
4th May 2002, 22:02
>Took off from Runway 05 at Kano, 1229Z crashed in the departure turn 1233-34Z...initially all signs appear to point to engine failure...
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What are the signs pointing to engine failure???

Shore Guy
4th May 2002, 22:21
The latest w/photos - but lots of pop up ads at:

http://www.airdisaster.com/

gofer
5th May 2002, 04:07
BBC reporting witnesses saying that: "flames were coming out from the wing".

And concluding that this: "points to massive engine failure".

2 sentences earlier they report that the plane was a BAC 1-11.

Conclusion
Nobody has done their home work and that its all speculation, as the BAC's engines are like those of the DC9 - MD80 at the back of the fuselage

Sad - RIP

PaperTiger
5th May 2002, 06:02
Eyewitnesses always report fire emanating from somewhere on the airplane prior to a crash. 99% of the time they are mistaken. There is a pyschological term for this phenomenon which I forget.
Makes for good copy though :(

Ignition Override
5th May 2002, 06:52
My condolences to everyone involved.

Is it possible that some members of the media "implant" ideas into the eyewitnesses memories? Could it sometimes be the power of suggestion?

True, that most seem to remember flames first. But on a very different note, almost nobody remembers a missile first, unless this was the likely/possible cause, i.e. TWA flight 800, the 747 tragedy near NYC. How about the Italian DC-9 which was shot down in the 80s near Italy? One of our Navy skippers (USS Vicennes?) was awarded some citation after the Iranian A-300 was shot down, by mistake. What was the citation for?

sandkfir
5th May 2002, 07:28
What constitutes a major aircraft disaster in the eyes of the media theese days? Is it solely loss of human lives? I seem to recall the loss of an MK airlines B747 F at PHC late last year. One or two others spring to mind since the ADC 727 in 1996.

Condolences to all involved

Kalium Chloride
5th May 2002, 08:13
Seriousness of an accident = Multiply the perceived profile of the operator by the number of casualties and divide by the distance between the media source and the accident site. Then multiply by the percentage of casualties sharing the same nationality as the media source.

This explains why people seem to know more about the Kano accident than the Bangladesh ferry disaster.

j boy
5th May 2002, 12:59
Boss could you please post names of flight crew. I have alot of friends working for EAS and I am unable to get a responce from their office at this time. Thanks.

R.I.P.

BSCU
6th May 2002, 08:43
Sandkfir

Funny you should mention the MK airlines crash at PHC.A mate of mine was buried in the wreckage of the aircraft with severe spinal injuries when he was mugged!

Lovely place!

Boss Raptor
6th May 2002, 08:57
Sorry dont have names of crew etc. - not a time to call Capt. Idris and ask either...

Iron City
6th May 2002, 13:37
Ignition Override:

Skipper of the Vincennes recived a citation for dereliction of duty and was tried along with several other officers. They all had their careers trashed, which I grant you is a lot less than what happened to the Iranian Airbus pax and crew, but they did not skip off free.

Codolences to all friends and family in Nigeria and elsewhere....

Anti Skid On
7th May 2002, 08:53
Thoughts on the cause - I thought BAC 1-11's if they lost power went into super stall, where they are very difficult to get the nose down due to aft C of G at the point of stall; as the nose comes up, it is even harder to get back down till descending backwards (Hence why stick shakers were invented).

Presumably it should have been able to climb out (or fly at a level) on a single donk, so is it an unfortunate dual system failure?

Eff Oh
7th May 2002, 09:14
Anti Skid On :-
It is the CofP that moves rapidly FORWARD during a stall in a 1-11. However this is true of ANY swept wing aircraft. This causes the nose to pitch UP not down as in wings with no sweepback. I believe a full superstall is unrecoverable, in theory it certainly is. The rear mounted engines put them directly in the path of the desturbed air coming off the wing, leading to engine compressor stalls, thus power loss.

Also the statement about the 1-11 superstalling after an engine failure, not true. If any aircraft was that dangerous it would never have been certified!!

The stick PUSHER was invented as a method of preventing superstall. The stick shaker activater prior to the pusher.
Eff Oh.

LUVMY146
7th May 2002, 10:59
Victor,

Give me a call or post here.......... Cant get hold of you down there.

x

Moneyshot
7th May 2002, 13:06
The superstall or deep stall was encountered on the early 1-11s and led to the crash of the prototype. This aircraft had elevators which were actuated by servo tabs which themselves of course would be in an area of very poor airflow. Production examples were fitted with hydraulically controlled elevators which, along with the stick shaker and pusher made it a very safe aeroplane. Trick is not to stall of course.