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Big Pistons Forever
19th Oct 2012, 02:02
Yesterday I was out having lunch at the airport and a new pilot asked for some tips on improving his piloting skills. I sent him an e-mail that laid out some ideas and occured to me that it might also be of interest to the PPRUNE readership...so here goes.

They represent one data point and are meant to spark some discussion and get folks thinking about the what and more importantly the why of what they are doing. For simplicity sake I will presume the aircraft in use is the C 172.

The walk around:

-This used to called the "daily inspection" as in once a day on the first flight. There is no need to do an equivalent of an "A" inspection for the 11th flight of the day. Not everything on the walk around should be afforded the exact same levels of importance. So the stuff that matters IMO

- Aircraft are delicate: All surfaces/doors/controls should be moved gently

-When in the cabin do two things generally not on the checklist. First organize the cabin (stow all the loose stuff, cross the seatbelts, throw out any garbage, and organize you maps books and other flight info because passengers get nervous when your stuff is laying all over the cabin and you are rooting around trying to find what you needs) second set the trim wheel to the TO setting so you can see where the tab actually is on the walkaround.

-Consumables. Fuel and oil should be checked on every flight. Big airplanes have reliable fuel guages (heck $9999.00 cars have reliable fuel guages) little airplanes do not. But be reasonable, you don't need a dipstick to check full tanks. As for oil, if at all possible you should know/find out what the oil level was on the last flight. A sudden reduction in the oil level is always bad. Either you have a bad leak or the engine is showing the first symptom of a potentially catastrophic failure.

-The most likely things wrong you are going to see in the walk around fall in the "hanging or dripping " category, so that's what you should be looking for.



Taxing:

- there is no one universal taxi speed. The airplane speed should be adjusted to suit the situation. Slow down for corners or tight spots, speed up on the straight parts and when crossing runways. Stuff that matters:

-IMO the number one indication of good airmanship on the ground is managing your propwash. Even a C172 can create damaging amounts of wind yet I believe this issue is not always well addressed in training. This is especially egregious since the C 172 has a back window so you can see who you are about to blast

- Follow the yellow line ! When you are at a strange airport it will save you from turning when you shouldn't.

- Don't ride the brakes and the aircraft should not be bobbing up and down every time brakes are applied. When stopping ease up on the brakes just before the aircraft comes to a complete stop, this will ensure a smooth stop.

- If there is significant wind, know where it is coming from and position the controls properly.

-Lights: Virtually all large aircraft operators have the same SOP for the use of lights. It is as follows:

position lights: On when electrical power aplied to aircraft (Not IMO required for small aircraft during day but should be done at night)

rotating beacon: On just prior to engine start

strobe lights: On when crossing runways and when entering active

landing lights: On when cleared for take off or starting take off roll (uncontrolled airports)

And the reverse when landing and for the taxi in.

I did not mention taxi light (usually located on the nose gear leg of large aircraft) as it is not usually applicable or practical for small aircraft. However you should know that if you are near a large aircraft it will switch on the taxi light when it is about to start moving and turn it off when it is stopped.

Since you have to use the lights somehow I figure if it is good enough for the big boys it is good enough for me and I think every pilot should use this SOP

Runup:
- Pick a sensible spot to do your runup. At my home field the runup bay can hold 3 airplanes, or just one if you park right in the middle..... it is not absolutely necessary to be exactly into the wind before starting the runup. A related point is wind direction. If aircraft position is irrelevant then you should certainly do an into the wind runup for reasons of improved engine cooling and more accurate engine settings......however if the wind isn't really strong (say less than 15 kts) and the aircraft can be better positioned to avoid propwash issues or not block taxiways, than that should determine how you park your aircraft.

The checklist is not a bunch of rote actions. Critical thought should be used. The most abused runup item IMO is the mixture check

- In my experience most pilots yank the mixture knob out until the engine dies and then shoves it back in. This often causes a backfire which is very hard on the muffler baffles and only proves the mixture cut off works. This is how I teach this item

- after the carb air check leave the carb heat on

- slowly lean. This is to allow the engine time to adjust to the changing fuel/air ratio and the RPM should rise as the overly rich mixture caused by the hot air gets corrected. Continue leaning until the RPM drops about 100 revs and the engine starts to run a bit rough indicating an excessively lean mixture. Slowly push the knob back to full rich and observe the RPM return to the starting value. You have now proven that the carb is properly set up and the mixture control actually controls the mixture.

Takeoff:

- Intersection takeoffs are almost never a good idea for single engine aircraft.

- Do a silent formal pretakeoff brief before every takeoff. This brief should IMO cover the following items :

a) The type of take off (normal,short,soft,or x-wind)
b) rotate and climb speed
c) what you actiosn you will do if the engine fails before liftoff and if you have an EFATO below 1000 ft AAE including where you are going to point the aircraft. This should not be a great long diatribe, just a clear description of where you are going to point the aircraft if the engine stops

- When you ready for take off you should be ready in all respects.

- The airplane should be lined up exactly on the centerline and it should stay there throughout the take off run. Don't accept inaccurate aircraft control.

-The throttle should be advanced slowly but steadily. It should never be jammed in.

- Before power is applied the elevator should be always slightly nose up (for a nornal takeoff ) so as the prop wash flowing over the elevator unloads the nose wheel

- When the throttle is fully in the student should note that all engine instruments are in the green and the engine is showing full static RPM (not Redline RPM, the static RPM value will be in the POH and will always be lower than Redline). At which point the call I teach is " good engine "

The aircraft to be rotated and climb at the briefed speeds. If it isn't, correct it ! (hint if the aircraft levitates with all three wheels leaving the ground at the same time than the rotate speed is too high )

The briefings may seem a bit over the top but I think it is very important to build good habits. If you perform a full but efficent briefing on every flight than the habit about thinking ahead will become ingrained.

The climb:

- As I mentioned in the previous post, after lift off work hard at holding a consistent pitch attitude that will give you the briefed speed.
( I like Vy to 1000 ft AAE as altitude is your friend. I do not use Vx fora normal take off as it requires a very nose high attitude {hard to see ahead }and is not far above stall. In the event of an engine failure a very aggressive pitch down is required to maintain safe speed.

- The aircraft should track the runway centre line as you climb away, don't accept the aircraft being pushed to one side or the other.

- In performance challenged aircraft the difference between climbing with the wings level and the ball in the center can be as much as 20 % over a feet on the floor wing low climb. Keep the ball in the middle !

- Through 1000 ft AAE , or when prudent/practicable transition to a cruise climb. I like to use a speed which gives a climb rate of 500 ft per minute for the C172 ( flying from a sea level airport). This will usually give a good compromise between engine cooling, visibility ahead, and achieving track miles. It also requires you to think about what airspeed to use rather than mindlessly using the same climb speed for every flight.

- If you are going to have a mid air on intial climb out it will most likely be as you pass through circuit height particularly at uncontrolled airports.

- Make sure you learn and understand the effect airspeed and mixture settings have on oil temp/ cylinder temp and what to do to manage engine cooling


enroute phase :

-When transitioning from climb to cruise, allow the aircraft to accelerate to cruise speed before setting cruise power, then trim. I know this is pretty basic and is covered in the PPL course, but it seems to be an item that frequently gets forgotten after the PPL .

- Most of the time your chart works best folded down giving a square about 8 inches across.

-The cockpit should always be neat and ordered. Passengers do not want to see charts all over the place and the pilot scrabbling around looking for his stuff. Similarly in small airplanes (like C172) I discourage the purchase of those airline style big leather flying bags. There is no good place to store it and if you are flying day VFR within the range of a C172 you don't need a lot of stuff. A small fabric tote is plenty and can be squeezed between the seats frames. Similarly those 50 dollar so called professional pilot knee boards are IMO a waste of money. A small clipboard available at Staples costs $ 1.99 and you just need to tie a pencil to it and you are set.

-When you are going somewhere in slow airplanes one of the most important thing to keep track of (aside from your present position obviously) is your ground speed.
Even a small increase in a head wind can have a significant increase in your trip time. This matters for your fuel reserves. Altitude can have a significant effect on the wind so while you should flight plan an optimal altitude you should also think about changing altitude to get a better speed.

- passengers want a smooth ride so if it is bumpy do something like changing altitude or route of flight. Some days you have just got to suck it up but if for example your planned altitude puts you 500 ft below a layer of scattered cumulus clouds it is probably going to bumpy and so if you just drone along anyway then you are not doing your best.

- make a big point about comparing the weather you see out the windshield versus what the weather guy said, and what it means if what you see is not what you were expecting.

- Get in the habit of carrying an energy bar and a small bottle of water. Being dehydrated and with low blood sugar levels diminishes your decsion making abilities.

Descent:

- Plan your descent for a maximum of 500 feet/min. The easy way to do this is determine how many thousands of feet between your cruising altitude and circuit height, double that and start down when that number equals time to destination (EG 6000 feet to loose, start down 12 mins from destination).
- The most efficient way to descend is to leave cruise RPM on and trim for a 500 fpm descent. Reduce the power as you descent to maintain the cruise RPM setting
- Don’t start a long descent by going to full rich mixture !
- Most of the time you will have a good idea of the runway in use, so plan your route of flight to minimize track miles.
- If you are ever going to have a mid air it will probably entering the circuit at an uncontrolled airport, This is where emphasizing a lookout is really important

General points :
Operational efficiency:
When flying, operational efficiency is desirable. In general the most efficent flight is that is safely accomplished with the minimum amount of flight and air time. Be organized and proactive.

Radio work:
- Pilots will soon get a reputation, good....or bad. One factor which will determine this IMO is how he or she handles the radio. So set a personal high standard and don't make the common unnecessary mistakes:

- When you change freq's listen for a few seconds before speaking so you do not step on another conversation

- engage brain before mouth. There should be no UMMs or ERR's

- Use standard phraseology and avoid slang


Monitoring Engine Gauges:

When I was a young commercial pilot I got an piece of excellent advice from a gentleman who had been flying since the 1930's. He told me to note the actual position of each engine gauge needle for each phase of flight. This is especially valuable if you normally fly the same airplane. Any significant change in an engine gauge indication should be monitored and investigated. This advice saved me from a force landing as I was climb out in a C150 on a routine instructional flight one day. I noticed that the oil pressure gauge was one full needle width below the the mid gauge white line. Every other flight the needle had had sat exactly over the white line mark. As we were only a few miles from the airport, I told the student to turn back. Over the next 2 minutes the oil pressure slowly rolled back to zero. By this time we were on short final so I shut the engine down and we completed an uneventful landing. It turned out the oil pump drive gear had failed.

To build good habits, at random intervals, cover the engine gauges and ask if yourself where the needles were sitting. I found that if you practice this pretty soon you get good at including the engine instruments in your scan.

GPS:

-Having GPS positional data is one of the best ways to improve flight safety and efficiency. Every pilot should have a personal portable GPS (second hand serviceable unit sare available on e-bay for a few hundred dollars) and should be taught and encouraged to use fitted GPS systems.

If any of the above was of value that is great; if you don't agree then I look forward to any and all constructive comments.

Shaggy Sheep Driver
19th Oct 2012, 09:04
With you all the way.... except 'rotate speed'. Shirley that's for heavy metal? When the Chipmunk's ready to fly, it tells me through the stick.

BackPacker
19th Oct 2012, 11:01
Excellent post. One little thing to add. Like you said, the walkaround starts in the cockpit. Check if the previous pilot left the airplane the way it's supposed to be left. Particularly: mixture off, magnetos off and key out, masters off, transponder standby, lights off.

All too often I get into an airplane and find that the whole Christmas tree, both inside and out, lights up when I turn the battery master on. Not to mention magnetos and mixture.

Oh, and I always do two walkarounds. One quick one to check the lights and the (electric) stall warner, then I reach in to turn the lights and master off, then I do a second round to check all the mechanics. Saves battery consumption.

As for the 2nd, 3rd and so on walkaround of the day: Fuel (check sufficient - no need to drain for water if you have not refueled), oil, tires and anything obvious dangling around or dripping.

dont overfil
19th Oct 2012, 11:48
Mobile phone off or flight mode?

D.O.

what next
19th Oct 2012, 12:01
Hello!

Mobile phone off or flight mode?On. You never know if you need it, it might become your emergency radio. It works nicely at typical altitudes at which SEPs are operated and does not seriously interfere with your onboard com and nav units. If you turn it on only when you need it, you might lose precious time while the phone attempts to connect to the network.
Make sure that important numbers are stored on your phone like those of the most often visited aerodromes and AIS and suchlikes.

There is a famous case of a Piper Malibu that flew on an IFR flight from Poland to my homebase a few years ago. He lost all electrics in IMC shortly after takeoff and continued his flight VFR on top from there on. From the German border onwards he was escorted by to F4s. Throgh his mobile phone he contacted the tower of "our" airport who in turn informed the military about his plan to return home. They even got someone familiar with the Malibu on the phone for him, who talked him through the checklist for emergency extension of the landing gear. This case is now taught in CRM seminars as an example for good CRM because he made the very best use of all available resources!

Happy landings,
max

Ah, and one more thing: We are all humans and make mistakes. To prevent these mistakes from having consequences, a very smart person once invented a thing called "checklist". Don't be afraid to use it. Always. (Then things like those described by BackPacker will not happen...). Don't be ashamed to use it, "we professionals" always do. Even on the sixth sector of a flying day. Every checklist. Every checklist item. Always. And you'd be surprised how often the chcklist catches forgotten items. Even more of them on the sixth sector of the day than on the first!

Halfbaked_Boy
19th Oct 2012, 12:15
One for the walkround, on Cessnas and other types with those holes right along the trailing edge of the elevator (anyone know the correct name and what they're for by the way?)...

Check there's no mud or grass etc in them - it indicates that somebody has pushed it back too hard and the tail has dug into the ground, possibly damaging vital components!

taybird
19th Oct 2012, 12:19
I like the original post!

I always make sure to have done a full and free, and sense control check before leaving the chocks and again just before entering the runway to line up. The first time picks up control restrictions before you embarrass yourself, and the second time picks up further control restrictions due to objects that might have dislodged during startup and taxi.

I also have a last minute sanity check that everything / one is strapped in and doors / canopies locked. Once whilst flying as pax we lost a canopy on the take-off roll even though the canopy alarm wasn't sounding. It wasn't fun and I wouldn't want to inflict that, or an open door, on a passenger.

localflighteast
19th Oct 2012, 12:52
This has been a very useful thread so far, I'm very encouraged by the fact that my instrcutor has said pretty much everything covered here to me at some point.

He evn goes as far as making me do a proper verbal , outloud go/no go briefing before we taxi to the hold short line, including my rotate and climb speed . what I'm going to do in the event of engine failure on the takeoff roll, climbout etc.


I have to admit the mixture check is one thing I probably do badly. I don't yank it out til the engine dies but to be honest I'm still not 100% sure exactly what I'm looking for. My 172 has a fuel injected engine if that makes a difference?

what next
19th Oct 2012, 13:02
I have to admit the mixture check is one thing I probably do badly.I have been flying powered aeroplanes for 23 years or so. This is the first time that I have come across a mixture check (really!). It is not mentioned in the POH or checklist of any piston aeroplane I have ever flown. To make absolutely sure, I even looked into the POH of the Pa44 (the type on which I mostly instruct) right now: No "mixture check" to be found.
So I would say that you can't do something badly that is not defined anywhere...

riverrock83
19th Oct 2012, 13:36
Re the "light" version of the walk around - before I reach the plane I LOOK at it. With experience and knowing the plane, you can often spot a whole host of potential issues.

Gertrude the Wombat
19th Oct 2012, 13:49
I do the "full" check every flight, not just first flight of the day. Who knows what the previous renter didn't look at properly? - it is sometimes quite clear that they were not using the checklist.

Hmm ... except for the water in fuel check, which I do trust the previous pilot to have checked. Maybe I just have this expectation that if they hadn't checked it, and there was water, the aircraft would not be sitting there in one piece waiting for me?

coldair
19th Oct 2012, 14:12
Many thanks BPF.

May I also add, very carefully check the seat runners before every flight.

Many years ago when I was a student my seat came away when making a 60 degree turn and I ended up in the back of the 152.

If I hadn't had an instructor with me I wouldn't be here today, please always check that guys, those seat retaining rails are rather flimsy and I am not a big chap by any means :)

dont overfil
19th Oct 2012, 14:14
This is the first time that I have come across a mixture check (really!).

Cessna 182T Lean for taxiing. "Set 1200rpm, lean for maximum revs. Reset 1000rpm."

Cessna 310R has Mixture check. Must be others.

Phone off is a legal requirement in UK:rolleyes: It is a b***** nusance. Zip zipzip, and I have seen it interfere with the localiser needle.

BPF A lot of good reminders there.

D.O.

Big Pistons Forever
19th Oct 2012, 14:51
I do the "full" check every flight, not just first flight of the day. Who knows what the previous renter didn't look at properly? - it is sometimes quite clear that they were not using the checklist.



So you have just flown from A to B to drop a pax off and are going to jump right back into the aircraft and head back to point A. From your quote it appears you would do a full walk around checking everything again. There is of course nothing wrong with this I just personally don't think there is a lot of value in it because IMO a problem with most of the stuff you are going to look at would have been obvious on the flight you just completed. In these kinds of situations I would just complete a walking pace circle around the aircraft looking for anything "hanging or dripping", dip the tanks, check the oil level and get in and go.

One point I did not mention but is important is to make the effort to take a look at the aircraft belly. Evidence of engine compartment oil or fuel leaks will often only be on the belly so get on you knees and take a good look.

pudoc
19th Oct 2012, 15:04
I've always been told never to move the controls from the outside of the aircraft either, if you need to check a bolt then do so but move the control surface slowly. And I never move one aileron to check the other does the opposite, that's what flight control checks are for. Leave the control surfaces alone.

Regarding lights, when starting up I want to be as lit up as possible so I put the strobes on as well as the beacon. And once entering a runway all of my lights (including landing light) go on before I enter. There was an accident in the US or Canada where a 737 landed on a turboprop because the turboprop companies SOP was to turn the lights on once cleared for takeoff and the 737 crew couldn't see them in the darkness. Needless to say most of the blame fell on ATC if I recall correctly, but if you're using an active runway, be as lit up as possible before lining up!

Good airmanship is invaluable. Being courteous to other pilots is good. Even little things like living the fuel pumps tidy rather than just slinging the pipes in a knot on the floor when you're done.

Good thread.

172driver
19th Oct 2012, 15:12
One point I did not mention but is important is to make the effort to take a look at the aircraft belly. Evidence of engine compartment oil or fuel leaks will often only be on the belly so get on you knees and take a good look.

Good point! Other than that, nothing much to add, except that
- I check the ASI is working during the t/o run
- always dial in the next expected frequency in the standby box, so no fuddling about upon frequency change (and keep listening out on the old one for a few seconds before switching)

Phone off is a legal requirement in UK

Reference for that in private ops? Mine is always 'on' for the reasons quoted in some posts above. Some countries, e.g. Austria, even print the phone nos of the local ATC units on the charts to be used in case of radio failure.

phiggsbroadband
19th Oct 2012, 15:21
Hi, having only flown Cessnas and Pipers, I have not seen the mixture check mentioned in any published checklist, but it does seem to be a reasonable check, if you can understand the principles involved.

One thing I would like to ask, is, would you do an A check if just taxying from hangars to parking?
The reason I ask is that the only plane that I ever got loads of water out of the fuel was a club C152 (which was on loan.) which had been run the half mile from the Hangars onto the Dispersal-Parking area by another pilot.

G-F0RC3
19th Oct 2012, 15:26
Thanks to all for taking the time to compile such excellent advice. One thing I learned during my training is that different instructors teach different things and all have their own pieces of experience to pass on. I think it's the duty of every pilot to never think they've learned it all, as there's always another experience out there from which we can learn something new. A constant learning process might save the lives of us and our passengers one day. Who knows?

One of my own experiences regarding mobile phones: I was flying along with my instructor and we kept getting interference on the radio. It was my mobile phone. I'd say it was more an annoyance than it was a safety concern, but I turned it off anyway. The advice above to leave it on is good if you have a flight safe mode (as I assume this prevents the interference).

Another issue I once had was not ensuring the primer was in and locked. During power checks the engine was shaking far more than it ought to have been, and we decided to taxi back to the apron to get it checked out. When back we ran through our checklists again and established that this was the thing causing the problem. So this backs up the point of always following through your checklists and never let anything distract you from it. Such distractions are more likely to make you forget steps or think you've done things you haven't.

Safe flying all! :)

Armchairflyer
19th Oct 2012, 15:48
I've always been told never to move the controls from the outside of the aircraft either (...)Just curious, why would that be? Granted, I don't touch the flimsy trim tab on the rudder and don't bang any control to its stop either, but I always move ailerons, elevator and rudder and have a look at all visible elements. For the DA/DV 20 Katana, the POH even instructs you to check movement of the aileron linkage through a small plexiglass window on the underside of the wing, which would be impossible to do by moving the controls from the inside (unless of course one has such long arms that an airplane isn't really necessary for flying :)).

Dan the weegie
19th Oct 2012, 15:49
One thing to add, gently check that the moving bits do not move in a direction that they are not supposed to.
Ailerons do go up and down but I have seen some that go side to side a little bit more than I was comfortable with.

localflighteast
19th Oct 2012, 15:52
Ok , so a question about the walkround , checking the prop ( esp. the leading edge) for nicks and dings.

Do you do this visually or actually run your hand over it. I've heard conflicting ideas. My other half says he never touches the prop in case the mag is live but my instructor tells me to run my finger along the leading edge.

Thoughts?

Gertrude the Wombat
19th Oct 2012, 16:06
So you have just flown from A to B to drop a pax off and are going to jump right back into the aircraft and head back to point A. From your quote it appears you would do a full walk around checking everything again.
I do ... mostly. A bit faster, and maybe I don't check every lock nut etc the second time, and if the gauges continue to make sense maybe I don't look in the tanks again. But I do walk round, I do check the oil, and I do all the cockpit checks.

DeltaV
19th Oct 2012, 17:18
BPF, nice to see you also mention propwash and the consideration of it's effects. A pet peeve of mine, I confess, having had my fill of stuff being blown about the hangar and my cockpit full of grass cuttings. The local flight school isn't blameless either and as far as I know doesn't teach that, why, yes, what is behind you is your business too.

Dan the weegie
19th Oct 2012, 17:55
just because the mags are switched off, definitely doesn't mean that they aren't live. A bad earth is all that's needed and you have a live mag, it's one of the reasons you do the mag check :).

Always treat the prop like it's going to pop on you but running your hand down it wont cause a problem, it's only going to threaten injury when you pull it past the "click" which is something one would do with a strongarm starter :). I can't see a good reason to look at the prop either way what you're looking for is evidence of corrosion or a chunk missing you should be able to see or feel it.

Shaggy Sheep Driver
19th Oct 2012, 18:05
The prop should of course always be treated as 'live' in case an earth lead has failed, but merely touching the thing won't set if running!

The Chipmunk requires to be pulled through 4 compressions before starting, to check for 4 good compressions and no hydraulicing (it's an inverted engine). We just treat it as live in case it starts when doing this. In fact, the attitude to take is to be surprised if, when pulling it through, it doesn't start!

A bit like expecting the engine to fail on take off and being relieved if it doesn't, rather than being completely taken aback if it does!

Big Pistons Forever
19th Oct 2012, 18:08
Local flight east

Re Mixture Check: My comments are aimed at the procedure for engines with carburators. The point of the exercise is to make sure that the carburator is not running too lean. If the carb is working properly the rich mixture created by the carb heat will be corrected by leaning the aircraft at run up RPM. That is the engine will go from over rich mixture to best power mixture as you lean. This will be indicated by a 20 to 50 RPM rise as you lean. If the RPM immediately drops as you lean then the carb is set too lean. This matters because a lean mixture at high power will create high CHT's and will damage the engine. In extreme cases it may even cause the engine to fail. I have snagged 2 airplanes for this. The first one turned out to have the wrong carb installed :uhoh: and the second one had a dirty jet.

However since you fly a fuel injected engine the purpose of the mixture check is to check the functioning of the fuel control unit. When you lean you should observe a reduction of fuel flow on the fuel flow gauge and a rise on the EGT gauge. One important check on fuel injected engines is that after full throttle is applied, is to make sure that the fuel flow is right at the max redline or even a little above the redline. Low fuel flows at high power can be caused by a variety of faults and is absolutely deadly for the engine.

Re the Prop Check: Nicks in the prop have sharp edges and the sharp edges concentrate stresses. Cracks then can develop from the stresses and in extreme case lead to blade failure. The good news is props are pretty tough so small dings should be attended to but usually are not a grounding item. Of course if in doubt consult your maintenance organization. A visual inspection is find for checking the prop but touching it is no problem. The issue is moving the blade. Even small movements could cause the engine to fire if the mags are on, particularly with a hot engine. You should always assume the prop is live and if you have to move it never wrap your fingers around the blade. Instead put your fingers tips on the middle of the flat part of the blade, press down and move your hand to move the prop with all body parts clear of the blade path. Before moving the blade make a visual check of the cockpit for mags off, mixture ICO and throttle at idle.

Since we are on the subject of walk arounds, my experience is if I am going to find anything wrong it will probably be a leaking brake, cord showing on a tire or a low nose wheel oleo, so those are things I pay particular attention to.

Pace
19th Oct 2012, 20:31
Of course leaning and mixture control is important especially on high altitude takeoffs.

Yet it is something avoided in the student world with instructors teaching students not to touch the mixture control which remains full rich for the duration of their flight.

Pace

pudoc
19th Oct 2012, 21:32
Just curious, why would that be? Granted, I don't touch the flimsy trim tab on the rudder and don't bang any control to its stop either, but I always move ailerons, elevator and rudder and have a look at all visible elements. For the DA/DV 20 Katana, the POH even instructs you to check movement of the aileron linkage through a small plexiglass window on the underside of the wing, which would be impossible to do by moving the controls from the inside (unless of course one has such long arms that an airplane isn't really necessary for flying ).

As always, follow your POH. But the light aircraft I've flown all have "Don't push" written on the ailerons. I too check the bolts under the aileron that requires me to push it up. I remember my PPL books saying you shouldn't move them from the outside. The reason escapes me, maybe something to do with heavy handed pilots and the material of the surfaces, especially ailerons, seems like it wouldn't take much strength to damage.

Saying that, one of my instructors loved to move them all about so, as with many things in flying, everybody has their own ways. Just like how some instructors like me to get hands on with the prop and give it a good rub some instructors told me to treat it like its running.

BackPacker
19th Oct 2012, 21:51
But the light aircraft I've flown all have "Don't push" written on the ailerons.

That notice probably relates to pushing the whole aircraft back and forth by means of the ailerons. Not to pushing the ailerons up and down to check the bolts and other fittings.

abgd
19th Oct 2012, 22:45
I'm told - and tend to believe - that you can damage aluminium ailerons by gripping them in the wrong place. If you find the rivets to indicate the position of a rib in the elevator then hold the aileron at this position, then there's no danger of squeezing it and causing metal fatigue at the trailing edge.

What I have seen is ailerons with patches over the trailing edge, where this had presumably happened.

phiggsbroadband
19th Oct 2012, 23:58
Hi, the original post asked what a new pilot could do to increase his piloting skills, and most of the replies seem to be related to checklist use.

There is another way to improve your skills, and that is to take several flights in a glider. You get to see climbs at 45 degrees on a winch launch, and descents at almost the same angle with full air-brakes and maybe a side-slip.
Also the adverse yaw is much more pronounced, with the real possibility of a good spin entry, if you step on the rudder at the 'right' time.

Thermal hunting is also a good practice for feeling how your machine is flying, and centering in a thermal is a whole new black art.
Gliding is a cheaper way of flying and is a whole new experience, which paid dividends in Mr Sulenberger's case.

gileraguy
20th Oct 2012, 00:02
Add ASI's Alive to your takeoff roll too.

sharpend
20th Oct 2012, 09:26
I first went solo in 1959 (yes really). My hours has passed 10,000; on all types from Big Jets, supersonic fighters and puddle jumpers.

But I learned lots from this post.

YOU ARE NEVER TOO OLD TO LEARN!

172driver
20th Oct 2012, 09:45
Yet it is something avoided in the student world with instructors teaching students not to touch the mixture control which remains full rich for the duration of their flight.


Must be another UK specialty. It was certainly covered and practised where I learned to fly.

localflighteast
20th Oct 2012, 11:37
Ditto for me with regard to leaning
Although lately I've spent so much time in the circuit I don't believe I've leaned the mixture in the air for a loooooooong time :(

thing
20th Oct 2012, 19:55
Thanks BPF for that excellent post, this is where Prune shines, disseminating years of experience to guys like me.

A few observations from a relative power novice who is quite happy to be corrected:

I was always taught to lean from the very first flight powered flight I had, don't know whether that's unusual or not. Something I always do when cruising regardless of altitude.

Gertrude makes the point of not checking the fuel on a walkround/second flight; it's something I think is the most important thing to do besides the oil. Takes seconds even on a Cessna.

I always run my fingertips (after checking mags etc) along the prop blade with a light touch, no point putting pressure on. Fingertips are ubersensitive, if there's anything there you're going to feel it.

Try and have some mechanical empathy, a/c will talk to you if you listen. I've flown with pilots with lots more hours than me who make me cringe; not particularly in their flying skills but more in the 'I wish you wouldn't do that to this machine' way.

Thinking about a recent thread, if you can't judge a circuit by the look of it instead of performing calculus in your head then get some more instruction.

Look out of the bloody window instead of in at the latest must have gizmo. The pilot you're going to share an accident report with is in another a/c; and he's just lurking around waiting for you to fiddle with your bits.

I know this is a bit off the wall but I think that anyone wanting a PPL should go to solo standard on a glider first. I must also add that I think anyone wanting to drive a car should complete a motorcycle course first; and if you have to ask me why then you're probably the person who needs to do a motorcycle course..:)

Gertrude the Wombat
20th Oct 2012, 20:03
I must also add that I think anyone wanting to drive a car should complete a motorcycle course first
I've been saying this for decades ... I have also suggested that anyone who wants to drive a car should get a pilot's licence first, or else the driving licence training and test should be raised to the PPL level (in terms of attitude and safety). Trouble is that refusing driving licences to a large chunk of the population would not be practical politics.

Maoraigh1
20th Oct 2012, 20:08
Thinking about a recent thread, if you can't judge a circuit by the look of it instead of performing calculus in your head then get some more instruction.
Or fly more circuits solo.

Shaggy Sheep Driver
20th Oct 2012, 20:16
I must also add that I think anyone wanting to drive a car should complete a motorcycle course first

I've been saying this for decades ... I have also suggested that anyone who wants to drive a car should get a pilot's licence first, or else the driving licence training and test should be raised to the PPL level (in terms of attitude and safety). Trouble is that refusing driving licences to a large chunk of the population would not be practical politics.

Spot on, but as you say, impractical. Most wouldn't meet the standard so either the roads would be full of illegal (and therefore uninsured) drivers or the economy would grind to a halt as immobility takes its toll.

But glider solo before PPL? I agree! Not least because that's how I did it! However, when I was being instructed as glider stude back in the early 70s, I recall a grizzled gliding instructor saying "these people have no idea how to fly, so how can I teach them to glide? They should go get a PPL to learn flying, then come back here to learn gliding". :E

thing
20th Oct 2012, 20:58
these people have no idea how to fly, so how can I teach them to glide? They should go get a PPL to learn flying, then come back here to learn gliding".

Never thought of it that way around. I have to disagree. Basic flying skills (ie the rudder is not a footrest) are best learned on a glider. I always remember my first powered instructional flight. My instructor (also a gliding instructor) knew my background. When he asked me to try a turn I put a bootful of rudder in and reefed it around at about 60 degrees. 'Er not quite' was his considered response..:)

thing
20th Oct 2012, 21:40
Incidentally I seem to be immersed in 'Fillipono Singles' (sic) adverts everytime I post here. Anyone else having this?

piperboy84
20th Oct 2012, 23:39
Love it when PBF imparts his wisdom, hate when he reaches right back to the basics and makes me realize I am overlooking the fundamentals and forgetting to perform checks. Makes me want to kick myself.

After reading his post, about what lights are installed on an aircraft and when to use them I thought back to almost 20 years ago when I was doing my PPL and the procedures that were drummed into me, specifically putting the master on and testing the lights and stall warning along with the fuel gauges/pump prior to the full walkaround with the master off. I remembered that we would put on the beacon before the engine start then when taking the active it would be “lights (strobe), Camera (TXP), Action (throttle). Anyway I got to thinking, on my Maule before the start-up I turn on the anti collision lights which is a strobe then on take-off I do not turn any more lights on i.e. no lights in the “lights, camera, action routine and I wondered why. I then realised the Maule does not have nearly as many light and light switches as the Cessna/pipers I learned in, so I went down to hangar and verified that there were only 3 switches, they were 1. The Anti Collision on each wing tip and tail. 2, the landing light. 3 the red and green NAV lights on the wings co-located with the anti-collison lights ( No taxi or beacon light equipped). While checking them I also discovered the anti collision on the tail was not working and realised why I had never noticed it before, the reason being when I start taxing out the hangar I turn all the lights on and see their reflection on the wall but I now realise this does not tell me if the tail anti-collision is working, So the new procedures is essentially back to the basics of testing the lights during the walk around and not being a lazy bastard and doing it on the fly. However I still don’t understand why my plane does not have a red beacon light on the tail or taxi lights, are they mandatory ??? why would they not be installed by the manufacturer?

mad_jock
20th Oct 2012, 23:48
For day vfr there is no requirements for any lights.

Infact even in commercials we can have them all knackard during daylight for 3 days (according to my current MEL)

Big Pistons Forever
21st Oct 2012, 00:49
I was always taught to lean from the very first flight powered flight I had, don't know whether that's unusual or not. Something I always do when cruising regardless of altitude.


You had a good instructor :ok:. Leaning any Lycoming or Continental engine at or below 75 % power is permitted at any altitude. Running full rich all the time fouls the plugs and wastes gas. The engine should always be leaned in cruise flight even if it is only for short distances.

piperboy84
21st Oct 2012, 01:10
[QUOTE]Leaning any Lycoming or Continental engine at or below 75 % power is permitted at any altitude[/QUOTE


Most of my flights involve cruising around at 1000 ft MSL, as soon as I get to 1000 ft its power back to just over 2300 the lean to get to 2350rpm which according to the Lycoming manual is 65% economy cruise. At 2 quid a litre for avgas you gotta make every last drop count.

I read in a lycoming 0-360 related article that at approximately 5000 msl it was just as efficient to redline the engine (2700 rpm)as it is only producing 65% power at full RPM at that altitude, does this sound right? or am i misunderstanding something?

DeltaV
21st Oct 2012, 08:26
piperboy84, I've read a similar opinion though I thought the altitude was a little higher for 70% power at full throttle which the author of the article used as it represented the cruise power setting for many aircraft. I've also read that any carburetted engine runs most efficiently at full throttle.

If all that is true and you can cruise at the modest altitude required then full bore should be the way to go, with leaning of course.

nimsu1987
26th Oct 2012, 10:18
Thanks for sharing this! I will be printing this out and keeping it in my bag :ok: