Log Book

[PanZa-Lead]

Does anyone know where I can buy a new log book. CAD have none and I would like one of the old fashion ones. Not iPad or computer generated ones.

Many thanks

[crwjerk]

I recenlty got mine from my fleet office, asked them to get from CAD and paid for it out of salary.

[Flaps10]

aviationworld.net has a nice selection and will ship to Hong Kong. ASA and Jeppeson have some really nice quality ones. The CAD ones are CRAP (no surprise).

[PanZa-Lead]

thanks guys

[gofor]

Are the HKG CAD logbooks referenced or copied from any other regulatory so that that regulator's logbook may be used ie UK CAA? (same columns etc)

[BuzzBox]

Are the HKG CAD logbooks referenced or copied from any other regulatory so that that regulator's logbook may be used ie UK CAA? (same columns etc)

I think you'll find that Hong Kong's CAD407 log books are the same as the UK CAP407.

After all, HK's aviation legislation and guidance material is mostly copied from the former motherland.

[gofor]

Thanks Buzzbox, yeah it looks the same

[iMad]

Will the CAD accept a stack of LogTen Pro-generated logbook printouts?

[777300ER]

Will the CAD accept a stack of LogTen Pro-generated logbook printouts?

Yes. For new licenses, the printouts may need a certification stamp or two..

[Dan Winterland]

Quote: ''I think you'll find that Hong Kong's CAD407 log books are the same as the UK CAP407''.

No they're not. They used to be very similar to the UK's CAP407, but with the addition of the P2X and simulator columns. In the CAP407, sims were logged in a separate section in the back. Now the CAP407 is in the JAR format and very different.

I bought a CAD407 about three weeks ago. Must have been the last one -sorry!

[Cavallier]

The question should be how much does one cost????

[crwjerk]

54 bucks.............

[Cavallier]

Good to see your Air Law study is still fresh in your head crwjerk!!!!

The Cav:cool:

[broadband circuit]

I'd 've said about three-fiddy!

[crwjerk]

What you talkin 'bout Loch Ness Monster???
My memory isn't that good, I bought one last month.......I think.........:8

[goneferrying]

Can anyone post a scan of (or provide a link to) the instructions for logging flight time that are printed in the HK CAD Logbook?

I'm trying to figure out how to correctly log some odd stuff, like CAD528 sim checks after a CCQ course.

Thanks.

[Klimax]

how do you guys convert P2X (Sandwich Officer time) to you JAR-FCL (EASA) log books? as P2 time or?

Cheers :ok:

[SloppyJoe]

Ahahahahah, yeah as P2 time :-) Best you ask your local authority to get an answer from them although I can tell you what they will say.

What is P2X? So you did not have a type rating in the aircraft? You were not allowed in the seat below 20,000ft you say?

Sorry but you can't log that as anything.

[Sqwak7700]

A cruise relief pilot may log as pilot in command all the time he occupies a pilot's seat as relief for the designated commander.

Is this the same as CAD? Then I need to revise my PIC times. :confused:

[freightdog188]

@standard1013

Doesn't that CAA document assume that, to be in the seat in the first place, you need a valid P1 rating, not "P2X"?

Which would mean that you can log the time if you are relief F/O, but not as a S/O.

[Good Business Sense]

P2X = talk on the radio and operate autopilot buttons under the supervision of P1. P1 flies in an emergency.

[crwkunt roll]

What is so hard to understand?
1. S/O logs P2X in the P2X column for the time he is in the seat.
2. F/O's log P2 for the time they are in the seat when they are PM.
3. F/O's log P1U/S for the time they are in the seat when they are PF.
4. Captain logs P1 for whole flight.

[Klimax]

Standard1013,

Thanks for that. :ok:

Cheers,
K.

[China Flyer]

Curtain:

Have you ever heard of "vicarious liability"?

If I'm going to end up in court for something my relief does, I'm damn sure I'm going to log all the time in my log book.

[cxorcist]

Who really cares? Any airline worth working for knows what your experience is without cracking your logbook. A well written resume and thorough interview is more than sufficient.