Parking Meters at YPJT...

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

YPJT....

Hang on to your 'Company' parking areas Chaps and Chapesses.

Seen today at JT, the installation of PARKING METERS on the so called Public Parking Areas.

And, from what I can glean, A COMPLETE suprise to the tenants....The Aero Clubs, Training Facilities, Maintenance Organisations, etc etc.

No 'consultation' - just the appearance of the meters and some new signage.

How will this affect the students, clients of these organisations, and as importantly, the staff of those organisations?

No rates announced as yet, as the 'slot machines' were still covered up.

How will this affect YOUR organisation?? YOUR Clients / Students??

With all of the 'Industrial Development' going on 'out the back' there, is this just more than a 'bit' over the top?
:yuk: :ugh:

OVAH!!:{

[Frank Arouet]

Anyone seen the movie, "Cool hand Luke"?

[Jack Ranga]

What a pack of absolute c@#nts :ugh:

[jas24zzk]

job for a bullbar i think

[avconnection]

Looks like parking at the Spud shed is going to become a little more congested...

[Engineer_aus]

I am sure those ATM bandits over there at the moment would be very helpful in removing them.

[Dangly Bits]

Super Glue the coin slots!

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

The latest 'rumour' this evening is that the parking 'rights' have been sold on to Wilsons Parking, who will manage / collect revenue / wheel clamp (??)etc etc....:yuk:

NIL consultation with any of the airport tenants...confirmed by three independant sources....:=:=

:mad:

[onetrack]

Just wait until they install the cameras that check the parking bay movements as well!! :ooh:

Meter Eye technology to collar overstay car parkers | Meter-Eye spyware for Cambridge (http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/meter-eyes-spy-on-perth-parkers-20090720-dq4q.html)

[YPJT]

I have some fond memories of what Jandakot was before the Yarpies got Garrett wrapped around their finger.

[Towering Q]

Barely recognizable now...:{

[Ovation]

They're taking greed to a whole new level.

If they get away with it at YPJT, should you expect to see it at Archerfield, Bankstown and Moorabbin in the near future? :mad:

[Sunfish]

The only way you are ever going to stop this leeching is via going on strike. You keep bashing GA? Now try and do without it for a week or Two.

[SOPS]

Completly out of control. When the last aircraft has landed for good, then they will be happy as they will finally be able to sell off the land. Every day they think up new ways to destroy Jandakot airport.:ugh::uhoh:

[jas24zzk]

I'm sorry, but this crap just gets to me.

Sure, we need councils/derocrats to keep some semblemce of order in the greater community, however, the level of citizen control in this country is out of control and just getting worse, at a seemingly accellerating rate.

When will it end? It will end when the average citizen bands together and anarchy prevails...probably not in our lifetime :{

You know its bad when the rule writers complain about the number of rules as they are mid way through writing a new one.

[aroa]

Cool Hand Luke...good movie.! How long ago was it.? Him of the salad sauce.

Sounds like Jandakot folk need to round up their pipe cutters, borrow ski masks and get to work.! NVFR of course.
Off with their heads!:ok:

Oz is sure turning into the land of rapacious and rampant capitalism.

Catching the Sydney airport monoply disease are they.? :eek:

[nomorecatering]

If the airport parking area is private property, then a private company cannot fine you, the issue a statement of liquidated damages for breech of contract . But they wont take you to court. Would cost them $5000 to reclaim $88.

[Clare Prop]

It is Commonwealth property. It belongs to all of us.

As a tenant, the first I heard of it was yesterday from someone who had seen the machines go up along the road.

If the fees were going towards maintenance of airport infrastructure that would be one thing, but somehow I think it will just go towards more bulldozers churning up what was once pristine bush until Garrett gave them the go-ahead to destroy it and replace it with hideous tilt-up monstrosities that you have to look at as you wait for the lollipop man to let you out so you can go to the next traffic jam.

And how about those light poles on short final for 12?

[glen beard]

I heard about the parking meters 2 weeks ago and must admit it came as no surprise.Anyone who has been near the airport of late is absolutely disgusted with the "mining" on a Commonwealth lease which is taking place ,continually, without any resistance from local or state government depts, who claim that it was an agreement done (allegedly) with a former Labor minister,and is totally out of their control.
The Jandakot water mound has been decimated by the removal of the natural bansia forest.Natural flora and fauna is nearly non-existent.
They (JAH) have already shut down Jandakot Welding & Engineering Services,claiming they needed the plot for a power sub-station.Strangely enough ,the same building is currently surrounded by a brand new fence & i think being used as a storage shed,or similar,for ERG training centre's NEW facility.
The commercial development is going ahead at an alarming rate,so it is only a matter of time before these tyrants need more space on the airport proper.So beware,existing leaseholders.I suggest you carefully read the terms & conditions of your lease,because,if there is a clause in it that enables this money-grabbing mob to terminate your lease ,or increase the rates to an un-affordable price,THEY WILL ENFORCE IT.

I moved off JT,after working there for over 40 years,and am currently trading from my home address where the stress levels are non-existent,but it sickens me to see what has happened to,what used to be the most enjoyable workplace that anyone involved in avation could ever wish for.
I have written articles in the local papers,had meetings/correspondence with Joe Francis,who occupies the seat of Jandakot,all to no avail.
When one of the articles appeared in a local paper,i had a call from Leo Seward (Property Development Officer ,or whatever) from JAH,accusing me of being a liar because of what i had said regarding the future of the airport.What i stated is already happening.
I think it's time for people who give a damn for the future of Jandakot Airport to stand up and fight ,or, in 5 years time you will be left with runways (which constitute an airfield) and very little else to support one of the busiest airports in Australia.
JAH's latest planning debacle is the 4th runway,which,according to the "master plan" i saw,shows the over-run going straight thru the Royal Aero Club .Work that one out.
Anyone out there listening???????????
Comments would be appreciated.

Good luck to all that remain

Glen Beard
Glen Beard Airspares (formally of Jandakot Airport)

[avconnection]

So does that mean the Toyota Cressida will no longer be part of the scenery?

Perhaps the fees will help pay for the proposed runway expansions. :cool:

[Sunfish]

Would a letter to Minister Albanese be in order?

[Clare Prop]

Complete waste of time writing to Albanese. He knows little and cares less about GA.

[Frank Arouet]

Complete waste of time writing to Albanese

I don't think he can read. Hasn't replied to any of my emails anyway.

[RR69]

Looks like they read PPrune... Email from JAH to me today below...


Dear aviation tenants,

As part of the precinct 5 development on our approvedMasterplan, JAH has now installed streetlights on the Southern Link Road ,approx. 450m beyond the overshoot of runway 30. The streetlights were designedto retain the published TODA for RWY 30 of 1051m at 3.17% slope. The lightswere manufactured 35cm longer than the design resulting in a minor change tothe slope gradient of 0.15% and a NOTAM has been issued declaring the slope at3.32%. The lights are all well below the OLS and comply with all CASA safetyrequirements. Nevertheless JAH is investigating a different design for thelights in the RWY30 take off splay with a view to reducing them substantially.

Whilst the change is slope gradient is very minor, JAH wouldadvise all operators to ensure that their aircraft performance data complieswith published TODAS for all runways at Jandakot Airport.


:ugh:

I really don't think they want this to be an Airport which I know is pretty obvious!

[Wally Mk2]

...........we live in a "user pays" world from SL upwards, get used to it this is just the tip of the iceberg!:ugh:



Wmk2

[Ultralights]

sadly User pays is a failure, it should be "everyone who benefits pays" oh wait, they used to.. :{

[YPJT]

Whilst the change is slope gradient is very minor, JAH wouldadvise all operators to ensure that their aircraft performance data complieswith published TODAS for all runways at Jandakot Airport.

I didn't know JAH had employed a perfomance planning advisor. :rolleyes:
patronising prats!

The lights are all well below the OLS Clearly not if you've had to publish a revised take off gradient :=

[Checkboard]

It is Commonwealth property. It belongs to all of us.

On July 1, 1998, the Commonwealth Government sold a 50 year lease over Jandakot Airport to Jandakot Airport Holdings Pty Ltd (JAH) with an option for a 49 year lease extension. ...

Jandakot Airport Holdings is owned by Ascot Capital.

Chairman | Greg King
Managing Director | John Fraser

Ascot Capital Limited is a Western Australian company specialising in property development and facilities management across Australia and around the world. The firm has an impressive track record in all facets of property development, including complex IPOs.

So it may be Commonwealth property, but as a business it's private.

[Typhoon650]

Rumour has it, that the plastic nozzle of a can of expanding foam, it flattened slightly to fit a coin slot, is more than capable of pumping a parking meter full of foam in no time flat.
I used to live in a suburb where the local council thought parking meters would be a great revenue stream, they even borrowed several hundred thousand dollars to install them.
The cost of maintenance, accounting and enforcement ended up being higher than revenue, and that council went bankrupt yet again.

[diddly squat]

Look on the bright side, it is just another tax on you.

[jas24zzk]

They are helping out with Employee Parking Permits. :E

Oh yer they thought about it for 2 seconds.

[Engineer_aus]

I have just gotten back from being at Jandakot today to carry out a pre purchase inspection for a friend of mine here in Sydney and I was very much surprised that there was not ONE car parked in any of the car parks. I assume (dirty word I know) that there is some red faces at Jandakot holdings right now.

[glen beard]

Isn't Red Faces a segment on Hey Hey?That segment is on a par with the comedians at YPJT management.When i retire i'm gonna get a job emptying the machines and clamping the wheels of all the "ghost cars".That takes care of 10 minutes a week ,then i can "jump the fence" and arrest all the guys not wearing hi-viz gear , whack them in the "clamp van" and leave them in the carpark.At least that way i might fill it.
From my observations,weekday occupancy averages around 3 cars per car park

Glen Beard

[Lasiorhinus]

So where is everyone parking?

[T28D]

Anywhere away from the car parks that a car will fit

[Clare Prop]

It's amazing how many cars you can cram onto a leasehold if you use some imagination. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some parked at a local discount veggie store as well.

Glen is right, in the car park opposite RFDS apart from an old relic that has been there for aeons (and hasn't been clamped yet!) there are two or three cars per day in there...otherwise it's tumbleweeds!

[kimwestt]

Nuthin there that a D10 can't put right!!
An ex Kimberley fella might be able to help out there.

Parking Meters . . . FLAT out
Lighting . . . . . . . . Elev -10ft.

As for redoing the guaranteed performance charts $$$$$$$$$!!!

Cheers.:ok:

[aileron_69]

So is one to assume that they were planning to reduce landing and aircraft parking fees with the extra revenue they had anticipated from paid car parking?:E

[aeromatt]

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

have you considered a career as a comedian?

[Engineer_aus]

Too funny.
Yes I was very surprised at all the cars parked up against the hangars. All I can say is that I was very happy that I never had a car and I was driven around. I think Jandakot is going down a similar road of Bankstown. At least on the northern side we are still safe for the time being!