B747 Classic Type Rating

[cantbeafoolinlove]

I know every one would say to look through the forums instead of opening up a new thread, but could only find one post regarding this.
I need to know where are the 747 classic TRTOs available out USA (visa issues). Anywhere in Europe, Africa, Asia Far East Asia or Middle East? I have both FAA (CPL) and ICAO (ATPL) licenses.
CBAFIL

[sinico.aeronauta]

I knew one here in Italy, OCEAN CARGO, located in Brescia Montichiari, they operated cargo flights between Italy and far east Asia (Hong Kong for instance).
but they don't exist now.
they had operated B747 Classic like you'd like to know.
so, do some search in internet and perhaps you'll find out some good news about Ocean Airlines...

p.s.: they were TRTO too in that time...

cheers ! :)

[cantbeafoolinlove]

no useful info on internet available on Ocean Airlines. They seemed to have closed down in 2008.
Any TRTO???
CBAFIL

[starcatcher737]

What about Air Atlanta Icelandic? Try to contact them, they still operate some B747Classics.
Good luck:)

[B747eng]

Try European Aviation in Bournemouth UK, they have a B747-200 Sim.

[mutt]

Knowing where you usually post from, look down the Kings Road :):)
Failing that, Bournemouth, UK.

Mutt

[cantbeafoolinlove]

Hi Mutt,
Please check your PM.
Thanks

[Current Limiter]

Only ones outside of the USA are - 2 in the UK, 1 in Bounemouth, 1 in Burgess Hill. There is also a classic simulator in Karachi, Pakistan, but you will have retired from flying before you are able to arrange to use that one, and besides their prices are about double the ones in the UK.

Enjoy....

[cantbeafoolinlove]

I know the prices for the one in Pakistan, its around 210USD per hour. Dont know if they would rent it out to an individual or if the PIA training center (where the sim is) would do it for individuals or not?
CBAFIL

[KwikFly]

A good old friend of mine, captain Brandt-Nielsen was definetely TRE 747classic last time I saw him, about a year ago. Try him

[Earl]

There was a 747 classic sim in Jakarta operated by garuda, they leased it out to many other operators,
last I heard was still in operations.

[Lowrider2]

Atlas Air Inc. has a 142 school with a 747-200 sim in Miami.

[SassyPilotsWife]

CBAFIL,

If Earl is right, contact hubby, one of his former flying buddies is actually in Jakarta right now (maybe for SIM recurrent as that is why he flies) could be coincidental. Anyway, hubby just talked to him yesterday and can find out for you! BOL !

[Idle Reverse]

There is also a Classic sim in Paris at CDG. Hellenic Imperial Airways from Athens use it for their sim training. They've just completed a conversion course there for a few new captains and FOs for their own Classics.

Google Hellenic Imperial Airways and give them a try ?

:ok:

[SassyPilotsWife]

Hubby is headed to London next month for recurrent. After the PM exchange, you should know who to contact now :0) He's actually flying but should be landing by now. Give him a call on Skype or email.

[grounded27]

Atlas Air Inc. has a 142 school with a 747-200 sim in Miami. And not to be confused Miami is not Technically in the USA, I believe the only requirement to visit is to speak Spanish.

[alldaysushi]

To be concise;

Denver USA, UAL
Miami, USA, Pan Am, Atlas
Jakarta, INDO. Garuda
HKG, Cathay Pacific (soon closing)
London, GECAT
Bournmouth, UK
Karachi, Pak, PIA

The best deal to be had is generally Pan Am in Miami, where the old Aeroservice Facility was.

The best flying sim was UAL in Denver, where incidently, the Air Force One drivers train.

I may have missed a couple, but I have box time at all.

Safe Journies...Sushi

[Fr8Dog]

The best flying sim was UAL in Denver, where incidentally, the Air Force One drivers train.


I think not!!! All E-4 and AF one training is done by Atlas in MIA. Has been for the last 3 years and just had the contract renewed for another 5.

[CAO]

AF One and E4 pilots train at the Atlas Air Training Center in Miami, and as per the news item below, since 2007.

Atlas Air Worldwide Wins Air Force One Training Contract - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/atlas-air-worldwide-wins-air-160100403.html)

Atlas Air Worldwide Wins Air Force One Training Contract
Press Release: Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. – Tue, Sep 4, 2012 12:01 PM EDT PURCHASE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--
Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. (AAWW), a leading global provider of outsourced aircraft and aviation operating services, today announced that its Atlas Air, Inc. unit has won a U.S. Air Force contract to train the aircrews of Air Force One.
Under the five-year, fixed-price contract, crews for the Air Force One, a modified version of the Boeing 747-200, will receive ground and flight-simulator training at Atlas Air’s world-class training center in Miami, Fla. Atlas Air has held the contract and has been providing this service to the Air Force since October 2007.
“We are extremely honored to have been selected to provide training for the pilots and crews of Air Force One and the Presidential Airlift Group. The Air Force’s exacting demands for professionalism, efficiency and security make this contract award even more meaningful,” said William J. Flynn, President and Chief Executive Officer of Atlas Air Worldwide.
He continued, “Atlas Air’s experience operating the world’s largest fleet of Boeing 747 Freighters to over 90 countries allows us to provide up-to-date training for these highly experienced crews. Our own Atlas pilots, who receive the same training at our Miami training center, support the Department of Defense’s Civil Reserve Air Fleet (CRAF) cargo and passenger requirements.”
Air Force One crews provide air transport for the President of the United States. “Air Force One,” the designated call sign when the president is on board, consists of two specially configured Boeing 747-200B aircraft.
About Atlas Air Worldwide:
Atlas Air Worldwide is the parent company of Atlas Air, Inc. (Atlas) and Titan Aviation Leasing (Titan), and is the majority shareholder of Polar Air Cargo Worldwide, Inc. (Polar). Atlas Air Worldwide also maintains a 49% interest in Global Supply Systems Limited (GSS). Through Atlas and Polar, Atlas Air Worldwide operates the world’s largest fleet of Boeing 747 freighter aircraft.
Atlas, Titan and Polar offer a range of outsourced aircraft and aviation operating services that include ACMI service – in which customers receive an aircraft, crew, maintenance and insurance on a long-term basis; CMI service, for customers that provide their own aircraft; express network and scheduled air cargo service; military cargo and passenger charters; commercial cargo and passenger charters; and dry leasing of aircraft and engines.
Atlas Air Worldwide’s press releases, SEC filings and other information can be accessed through the Company’s home page, www.atlasair.com.