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Rollingthunder
1st Aug 2012, 02:46
UA 1475 at Denver (B737) somewhat damaged by unidentified bird.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/01/article-0-14514B8B000005DC-987_634x436.jpg

Basil
1st Aug 2012, 08:53
damaged by unidentified bird
Dolly Parton?

Up up and away
1st Aug 2012, 09:33
I'm sure there would have been a similar-sized hole on the other side of the nose had it been Dolly :O

Jet Jockey A4
1st Aug 2012, 11:22
Up up and away said...

"I'm sure there would have been a similar-sized hole on the other side of the nose had it been Dolly" :O

Why? Dolly's massive booby absorbers would have cushioned the shock!:p

Huck
1st Aug 2012, 11:53
Rumor was she passed out and had to be carried off by four men. Two abreast.....

Smoketrails
1st Aug 2012, 12:42
..more like Rosanne Barr hit it..

ESSP Flyer
1st Aug 2012, 16:42
Unless it was hit by a Great Tit (Parus major) of course......

DC-ATE
1st Aug 2012, 16:52
OK.....all good replies, but I wonder just what kind of BIRD it was ?!?!

Smilin_Ed
1st Aug 2012, 16:57
Even a small bird can make a big hole. I once hit a seagull which nearly destroyed the entire nose cone/radome on a P-3.

lomapaseo
1st Aug 2012, 22:16
The dent varries with both object size and speed .

i.e. for the same size bird the frontal area of the dent decreases with increasing speed while the depth of the dent increases with speed. Some similar complicating effects with engine fan blades. It's the combination of dent depth and area for a given speed that relates back to the bird size

For nose domes/cones the hole size is a little more complicated since it depends at what point in the impact and dent sequence the metal begins to tear. Of course if its a flexible non-metalic like fiberglas etc. there may be no visible hole, just a crack which opens during the denting and lets the whole bird inside before springing back closed again.

Simlar effects with ice/hail strikes on aircraft. knowing one or two parameters you can usually work out the others.

With a hard object like a bullet or missle fragment a similar relationship can be worked out at a macro level (TW800 example)

DaveReidUK
2nd Aug 2012, 06:22
With a hard object like a bullet or missile fragment a similar relationship can be worked out at a macro level (TW800 example).

You were doing OK with your explanation up to that point.

MarkerInbound
2nd Aug 2012, 06:40
Some of the larger airports have full time wildlife control officers. They've been known to take DNA from the blood smear to find the type of bird.

2EggOmelette
2nd Aug 2012, 06:47
Saw the damage to the front end of an A4k after it collided with a duck at 250kts, the size of the entry 'hole' was rather similar, so perhaps a 1 - 1.5kg feathered missile? Gave the poor old pilot a bit of a start too.

green granite
2nd Aug 2012, 06:56
Poor bird.

A A Gruntpuddock
2nd Aug 2012, 10:22
Sure it was a bird?

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAu8bBraD-7GsZSQFUk8CM6Urm4XPo2kZ-ZRT3zqyrvA2T1ZFZ (https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAu8bBraD-7GsZSQFUk8CM6Urm4XPo2kZ-ZRT3zqyrvA2T1ZFZ)

ATPMBA
2nd Aug 2012, 10:51
Luckily it didn't hit the windshield.

flyingchanges
2nd Aug 2012, 11:45
Actually, it probably would have been better if it did hit the windshield. The forward bulkhead is very thin and there are numerous accounts of birds penetrating to the cockpit.