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NutLoose
7th Jul 2012, 11:37
They are participating this year..

Anyways, here is an excerpt from the Voice of Russia article--they kinda buried the lede...

"In spring of 2012 it became known that the Russian Air Force is to participate in the Red Flag training exercise in the fall of 2012 together with Americans. From 8 until 19 of October, Red Flag Air Combat Exercise 13-1 will be held at Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada (the exercises are numbered in accordance with the fiscal years, and exercise in the fall will be number one in the 2013 fiscal year). Like India, who participated in the Red Flag several years earlier using its Russian-made SU-30 MKI, Russia will get a chance this year to test its aircraft in realistic combat maneuvers with USAF aircraft. This chance is very important, since up until now the only Russian aircraft of the fourth generation which fought in a real combat situation against western aircraft has been the MIG -29, but the possibility of deploying it in the conditions of very specific wars of 1991 and 1999 was limited. Under such circumstances, the chance to test modernized Russian aircraft such as the SU -27 SM, SU-30M2, MIG -29SM and other strike aircraft - despite simulations, they are still against real western aircraft and pilots - is too attractive to be miss out on."

More here

Guess who's coming to Red Flag? If you said the Russians, you're right... - The DEW Line (http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2012/07/guess-whos-coming-to-red-flag.html)


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racedo
7th Jul 2012, 15:50
Rumour is some got the date wrong and came a few months early if reports of TU-95 Bears interceptions are correct.

Wensleydale
8th Jul 2012, 07:34
Wonder when the first violation of Area 51 will take place?

foldingwings
8th Jul 2012, 08:27
Or Tonopah!

Foldie:}

KarlADrage
8th Jul 2012, 08:41
Per a post on Nellis AFB's wall on Farcebook:
Reports of Russian Federation Air Force participation in Red Flag exercises at Nellis in the near future are inaccurate. For questions about Russian Federation Air Force participation in Red Flag-Alaska, please contact the Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs through the switchboard at the Pentagon.

Heathrow Harry
8th Jul 2012, 09:37
"You know - you can see Russia from here"

polyglory
8th Jul 2012, 20:13
Just think Opsec:mad:

kbrockman
9th Jul 2012, 09:00
They've had the Indians (in Vegas anyway) and the Swedes and France with their Rafale's, now they just got the Germans and their Typhoons which, as rumours go, did fairly well even against the F22's (up close).
That's a lot of excotic adversaries/training partners for the last couple of years, when are you British going to go back (it's been a while now and IIRC that was Green Flag) with your newest Typhoons, they should be able to make a good impression by now, any plans in the near future on that front?

German Eurofighter Typhoons in (http://www.dailyairforce.com/1123/german-eurofighter-typhoons-in-red-flag--alaska-2012.html)

randyrippley
9th Jul 2012, 15:25
"They've had the Indians (in Vegas anyway)"

the Indians have been in Vegas for around 10,000 years, though I'd not heart of the Southern Paiute nation having an air force

racedo
9th Jul 2012, 20:27
"They've had the Indians (in Vegas anyway)"

the Indians have been in Vegas for around 10,000 years, though I'd not heart of the Southern Paiute nation having an air force

The old saying in the West was ..............when you see an Apache its too late, you are dead. Clever those old indians......

Heathrow Harry
10th Jul 2012, 13:35
clever they may have been but as usual the big guys win in the end