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Grim Reaper 14
2nd Apr 2002, 14:07
Help! I've got two weeks before I start my training! What are the top three things that I should be wary of? Please don't close this down too soon Red!!!!!:eek:
Dont worry mate, this is the best place for it. You will get some great advice from this lot here..:)
Don D Cake
2nd Apr 2002, 14:23
Er.....
Training for what, in what and where????
In my experience addiction has been the main problem.... :rolleyes: :)
Most dangerous moment so far was suggesting to my wife that a share in a Cub would be a better way to spend money than the C-class she wants...
Grim Reaper 14
2nd Apr 2002, 14:53
OK Cake. For what? PPL. In what? PA28. Where? South Africa.
I thank you.
;)
FlyingForFun
2nd Apr 2002, 14:55
In that case, I'm with Evo - addiction will be your biggest problem.
Have fun! :D
FFF
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sennadog
2nd Apr 2002, 16:16
As others have said - addiction will be your main problem....:D
As probably the least experienced PPL wannabe here and therefore the most qualified to answer your question (;) ), without knowing what pitfalls you expect the best bit of advice that I can give you is to relax!
I've found that in any given situation where you feel a bit nervous, the best thing to do is to take a deep breath and count to three. Last weekend, I started circuit bashing and did my first solo flyaway and when I came in to do my first landing there was a bit of a cross wind. I had the usual "death grip" on the controls, so I literally took a deep breath and slowed myself down....
Worked a treat.:)
CAHLIBAHN_MK2
2nd Apr 2002, 17:34
Is it a JAA licence you are training for?
If so you'd better read this carefully CAA doc (http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/SRG_FCL_ApprovedFTOs.pdf) especially the list of approved schools in S.A.
28thJuly2001
2nd Apr 2002, 17:36
My top 3 things.
1. Watching the minimum payment on my visa rise monthly.
2. Every other lesson cancelled because of the ******* weather.
3. Spending 10 hours in the circuit to get my landings from certain death to controlled crash to bouncy,bouncy to flare you swine to WOW I can actually land.
Walt,,
P.S. It is all worth it.
FlyingForFun
3rd Apr 2002, 07:48
Ok, several semi-sarcastic replies - but that's probably because no one's really sure how to answer the question, as everyone will come across different problems, and it's not really possible to plan for them until they happen.
But I'll have a go at a sensible answer. You'll start off with a trial lesson, which will be very relaxed. The instructor will talk to you on the ground about what the various controls do. Then he'll take off, demonstrate a particular control to you, and then get you to repeat what he's just done. It's extremely easy, and it will stay easy for the next few lessons, too. Over the following hours, you'll continue to get a feeling of how to use each of the main controls, the "secondary" effects of these controls, and start to become comfortable climbing, descending, turning, etc.
After that, you'll move on to stalls. Lots of people worry about stalls, for no reason at all. A simple way of describing a stall is that you slow the plane down enough that the wings can't keep it in the air any more. (This is actually not accurate - it's not really related to the speed, but actually to the wings' angle of attack - but since I'm trying to give you a feel for what the lessons are like, and not an aerodynamics lesson, it's close enough!) I think that when people here this, they expect the plane to drop out of the sky. But actually, it's nothing like this. The wings are still developing plenty of lift, just not quite enough to balance the weight, so all that happens is the nose of the plane will drop a bit, and you'll start to go down slowly. You'll learn to recognise the symptoms of this before it happens, and how to recover from it safely.
After a while, you'll move on to the only difficult part of flying - circuits and landings. This is the frustrating part, and you will come out of your lessons convinced that you'll never be able to fly. You'll log on to PPRuNe, post in this forum asking for advice, and people will real off the same advice that everyone gave them when they were at this stage. But really, none of the advice helps. The only way to learn to land is to practice - it's just hard to see that when you don't seem to be making any progress. But, one day, you'll suddently discover that you can land! It won't be perfect, or consistent, but most people say that it just "clicks into place". More heartache over the next few lessons, because lack of consistency will mean that you'll still have bad lessons when you bounce all over the runway. But eventually, your instructor will have enough confidence for the biggest moment in your flying career - FIRST SOLO!
The best way to understand what it's like to solo an aircraft is to do it. But, in the mean time, search this forum, and the Wannabes forum, for acconts of people's first solo - this will give you a rough idea of the the emotions, but it won't really come close.
Now, you're practically done. Spend time in the circuit perfecting your landings, then do the cross country navigation stuff (you do all the hard work on the ground, so the flying part is really very simple), a little brushing up, and you're practically ready for the skills test!
Somewhere along the way, you'll have to do some multi-guess type exams - although most of the questions are so easy that guessing really isn't necessary. Your instructor will recommend the textbooks you should use (most instructors recommend Trevor Thom), and all the information is in them - although your school will probably offer ground-school classes if you want or need them, so there's really nothing to worry about.
This isn't intended to be a complete course sylabus, and I'm sure the instructors and examiners who hang around on this forum would be able to pick a million holes in the details. But it should at least give you a rough idea what you've let yourself in for. The main thing to take away from it is that there will be difficult times, especially when you're trying to learn to land, and you should feel free to post here when you come across problems - but don't worry about it. Especially not at first - the first few lessons will be very easy and very relaxed.
The other thing to do, if you have plenty of time on your hands, is take a look at http://dir.yahoo.com/Recreation/Aviation/Training/Student_Journals_and_Diaries/ This is what I did before I started training (before I found PPRuNe!) and it gave me an excellent idea of what to expect. Many of the journals are American, and there are minor differences in the sylabus, but it still makes excellent reading
Most of all, have fun!
FFF
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Don D Cake
3rd Apr 2002, 09:22
South Africa eh? Lucky you. Can't really add more to FFFs excellent post than to say just relax and enjoy yourself.
Totally agree with the addiction thing. Your house will be littered with flying books & magazines, you will look up at every passing aircraft and wish you were flying it and you will no longer waste money on unnecessary items such as clothes & food ;)
Grim Reaper 14
3rd Apr 2002, 15:12
Come on people! Only ten have responded out of the 200+ who've looked. Don't you want me to succeed? Thought not...
HELP!!!!!!!!:confused:
Can you give us a clue what you're worried about?
Grim Reaper 14
3rd Apr 2002, 15:32
EVERYTHING!! What if I get malaria?! What if I crash and burn in Kruger national park?! What if I get mugged?! What if........
I don't know.... I was just hoping for a few more reassuring. "you'll be fine old man" comments to help me loosen the grip on my wassname while involved in a gusty landing, with the local wildlife population on alert.
Maybe I'll be fine, I hope so. Paranoid? Me? Not at all. It's just that everyone's out to get me....
:D
Can't even spell wildlife without an amendment.... Dear God!!!
Don D Cake
3rd Apr 2002, 15:33
Okay, I've only got 13 hours but....
Death grip on the contol column. Hold the controls lightly, the a/c isn't going to suddenly dive for the ground
Get your seat in the right place, count the number of visible holes in the seat runner so you get it the same every time
Try not to worry about landing. My landings are somewhere in between certain death and contolled crash at the moment but I am assured that it will come eventually :confused:
Don't be afraid to ask your instructor if you don't understand something. Keep asking until you do understand, they're there to help you
Don't worry, you'll really enjoy it
Er, that's it for now, I'm going home for a beer :)
Grim Reaper 14
3rd Apr 2002, 15:40
Like that beer theory...I think I'll do the same!!:cool:
flyboy007
3rd Apr 2002, 18:28
Howsit. Not really the best to answer, but i'm gonna anyway. Things I got told that worked:
1: Make the f***ing aeroplane do what you want. Its just a hunk of metal so be positive with it.
2: Relax, as above. theres no need to panic.
3: Look out the window as advertised, not inside.
4: Relax, no need to panic.
5: Enjoy it,thats what flying is for.
6: Buy your an instructor a beer after the flight.
7: On landing, when trying to judge the flare height, wait until you can see the instructor tense, and flare.Should be spot on.
have a good one, all the best.
Tinstaafl
3rd Apr 2002, 19:57
No, if you wait for your instructor to tense before flaring you will overcontrol.
Anticipate when your instructor would tense & flare then!