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rich_g85
2nd Jul 2012, 15:17
Hello, Could I possibly trouble you to consider some questions regarding controlling military jets at a (UK) civil airport? These questions have all arisen after watching a Typhoon depart Bournemouth yesterday afternoon, headed for Farnborough. Any idea if he would he have been under VFR, or IFR? Is he still expected to remain below 250kts below 10,000'? When he arrived back from Farnborough and performed a run & break, would any other aircraft have been allowed to be in the circuit at the same time? Thanks, Rich

ShyTorque
2nd Jul 2012, 16:05
Any idea if he would he have been under VFR, or IFR? Is he still expected to remain below 250kts below 10,000'?

Either way, military aircraft aren't required to comply with the 250 kt limit.

Amexgull
3rd Jul 2012, 16:01
The old IFR/VFR vs TOS argument. Mil tend to be more concerned about the service than the flight rules. As far as the specific trip you mention it was probably a VFR trip but the pilot will only file an abbreviated flight plan/booking out anyway. As for separation in the circuit you would sequence it the same as you would different speed acft in a standard circuit. If you were worried you could orbit other acft at the start of the DW leg and the FJ would turn inside. A FJ pilot should only break when he is visual with all other acft in the circuit. If they are in any doubt then they should continue through the deadside and go out for another join...

LoserGill
3rd Jul 2012, 16:48
250kts below 10,000' is for arrivals only in Canada, departures can have whatever speed they want (with limitations).