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DeanCross
7th Mar 2012, 08:12
Does anyone know of any ATCO jobs coming up in the near future?

Ideally looking for a radar unit.

Thanks


DCS

LEGAL TENDER
7th Mar 2012, 10:49
finger on the pulse eh? ;)

Inverness and Bournemouth currently advertising.

Air Traffic Control jobs (http://jobs.flightglobal.com/jobs/air-traffic-control/)

Manchester Airport Jobs (http://jobs.manchesterairport.co.uk/JobSearch/JobDetails.asp?PageNav=Featured&JobID=669)

twentypoint4
7th Mar 2012, 11:57
The Peel Group or DFS are likely to need to replace a number of tower only rated ATCOs at EGGW soon.

Have I missed some news regarding the EGGW NATS contract?

Please explain or point me in the direction of some further info. Cheers

360BakTrak
8th Mar 2012, 07:21
Inverness pay well!

chevvron
8th Mar 2012, 11:18
Safeskys Ltd (http://www.safeskys.co.uk)

LXGB
8th Mar 2012, 11:37
Inverness pay well!

From what I've seen, that's pretty much the going rate for an APS rated ATCO these days.

DeanCross
8th Mar 2012, 16:35
Anyone know if Newcastle or Liverpool may be recruiting in the near future?

aluminium persuader
8th Mar 2012, 18:02
Not if you look at the Bournemouth job, LXGB! :{

LEGAL TENDER
8th Mar 2012, 18:07
Anyone know if Newcastle or Liverpool may be recruiting in the near future?

they both had a vacancy each not too long ago, end of 2011.
Both filled.

chevvron
9th Mar 2012, 08:54
With Manston and Prestwick up for sale, there may be some more experienced ATCOs on the market soon.

throw a dyce
9th Mar 2012, 10:25
For Inverness you need ADI,APS and APP ratings.The unit operates mornings (up to 8.30am)and evenings procedural.Also a Met ticket for nights.

Buster the Bear
9th Mar 2012, 17:51
NATS Luton tower contract is up for renewal. Deadline for submission of business plan passed a while ago, the Spanish concession operator will make the decision.

chevvron
13th Mar 2012, 05:22
Hm if NATS don't get the contract, how will the new incumbents be trained?

yates
13th Mar 2012, 18:54
Hm if NATS don't get the contract, how will the new incumbents be trained?

In the same way that has been done when NATS or any other provider) have lost a contract anywhere else.
Given the manner in which NATS have been treating new recruits over the last few years, I doubt they'd have the intelligence or the resources to persuade every existing ATCO at Luton to stay with NATS.

What would ensure NATS survival at Luton is the provision of Approach Radar Services. Is the airfield contract separate from the remote provision of radar from Swanwick?
If not then NATS have the upper hand as the new provider would have to directly employ radar rated atcos, engineers and probably pay for the oversight and commissioning of radar facilities at the airport. That would require an extremely lengthy contract to get a financially worthwhile return.

Barnaby the Bear
31st Mar 2012, 13:11
Air Traffic Control Officer | General / Office | All Vacancies | Careers | Stobart Group (http://www.stobartgroup.co.uk/careers/GeneralandOffice/air-traffic-control-officer/)

Southend still recruiting. ADI, APP and APS required. :ok:

yates
31st Mar 2012, 21:22
Mobile Air Traffic Controller with Highlands and Islands Airports Ltd | 1401338032 (http://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/1401338032/mobile-air-traffic-controller/?utm_source=jbe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2012-03-31&ProcessedTrackID=6613)

Either you need a mobile, or wheels, or both.

Ideal job for a nomad re writing the Complete Works of Shakespeare or similar.
Crap salary for what they're asking, but I dare say that the take up would be so low you could demand your own price.

Spitoon
1st Apr 2012, 09:37
Crap salary for what they're asking, but I dare say that the take up would be so low you could demand your own price.Interesting comment. Every job has its own characteristics that will appeal or otherwise to potential applicants. Many years ago a controller on a liaison visit from TC (as it was then) came and sat next to me for a while at my moderately busy regional airport approach unit. He spent most of his time telling me how wonderful his job was and how bored he would be if there weren't aeroplanes queuing up to be vectored pretty much all shift. If he'd given me a moment to speak I might have told him that one of the main reasons that I enjoyed the environment that I worked in was that it was full of variety....and when I got bored with radar, I could do a stint in the tower. I was happy enough doing what I did, and I was pleased he was happy with his lot - we are all different and I would have hated the prospect of a posting to TC (and fortunately it wasn't a possibility) just as my new found fried would have been aghast at a posting to a little airport.

When I think about it, I have great respect for anyone who has found a job that suits them perfectly. I have a friend who works with HIAL and seems very happy. He had worked in quite a few different parts of the world before ending up in his homeland again - as I say, it seems to suit him well.

When it comes to salary there are a couple of things to keep in mind. First, that the salary offered by HIAL still puts the successful applicant into the top 10% of earners in the UK - perhaps we can get too used to the salaries we get in this business. Second, what really matters to me is what lifestyle one can enjoy on the salary. My guess is that one can have a pretty good life in the Scottish islands on the salary offered by HIAL, combine that with, say, a love of outdoor activities and the successful applicant could have found the ideal job.

Barnaby the Bear
1st Apr 2012, 13:00
Good post :ok:

throw a dyce
1st Apr 2012, 15:15
Actually diesel would be nearer 153.9p a litre in the isles.
Don't forget the allowances(shift,weekend/PH,Met,Mobile) would add a bit on the basic pay.Final salary pension as well at the moment,but for how much longer?Don't know if HIAL are very good at paying relocations to new staff.:(
You could get quite a good house,for the price of a flat down south,but castles will be a bit much.Looks like they have had a good response to the RATCO post at PE,so maybe there's a lot more people looking around than first thought.

AyrTC
1st Apr 2012, 15:20
I think the salary is fair. The job can be interesting at times, getting your APC ticket to deal with 3 to 4 IFR movements at the same time then doing sod all for an hour.
As I have said before the ATC part of the job should cause no problems ( although I think lack of experience is beginning to creep into some HIAL airfields, nothing dangerous just not as tight as it could be). The main aspect any applicant should consider is that you are living on an island (EGPC could also be thought of as an island it is just not surrounded by water :E ), and that can take some time getting use to. I enjoyed my 3 years detatchment to HIAL however I was single and on NATS pay rates :ok: and TBH 3 years was enough!

Rgds

AyrTC

yates
2nd Apr 2012, 19:30
I think the salary is fair

Each to their own, however the salary range quoted is easily achievable in England for ADC/APP alone, so why go to the nether regions to do the same thing for "preferably APS as well" (allowances or not)?

The facts are that you'll be based somewhere which is probably as expensive, not to buy a property, but certainly as most of the South of England to live and then be expected to up roots and hold a dual validation to travel at few days notice to exercise the privilages of that (talking of which, I understood that SRG would only approve such dual validations for the purposes of leave relief - up to 6 months doesnt cover that remit).

Recently HIAL were offering salaries in excess of £60k for anyone with all 3 ratings.
This job even with just 2 has got to attract a starting salary of at least £50k (plus the allowances) and no one should accept anything less for the disruption and inconvenience the job would involve.

It seems that the new HIAL Manager ATS is putting his toe in the water to see if any of the dumb fish bite, lets hope there are plenty of crocs, gaitors and pirhanas around to stop him taking the piss.:cool:

Eric T Cartman
2nd Apr 2012, 20:29
Hm if NATS don't get the contract, how will the new incumbents be trained?

In the same way that has been done when NATS (or any other provider) have lost a contract anywhere else

You surely aren't suggesting they would just bog off on the changeover day, having refused to train the newbies - like they did at Hurn, Liverpool & Prestwick ? :(

chevvron
3rd Apr 2012, 08:53
The situation at Boscombe Down comes to mind actually; none of the staff of the new contractor reached the required standard on NATS last day despite the efforts of NATS to train them (and at least one of NATS staff signing on with the new contrcator).

Eric T Cartman
3rd Apr 2012, 10:31
@ chevvron
A real moral dilemma that - asking anyone to train someone you know will displace you is not a recipe for success :(

Barnaby the Bear
17th Apr 2012, 10:43
Air Traffic Controller with London Southend Airport Co. Ltd | 1401339445 (http://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/1401339445/air-traffic-controller/)

Southend advertising in Flight. Salary info included.

ATCO Fred
18th Apr 2012, 17:35
Air Traffic Controller with London Southend Airport Co. Ltd | 1401339445

Southend advertising in Flight. Salary info included.

:(:( I'm a UK based ADI, APP and unvalidated APS rated ATCO who earns <40k for upto 250 / 300 movements on a busy day......

hmmmmmmm.....:sad:

Thanks for the reality check guys !

LoserGill
23rd Apr 2012, 23:11
ATC jobs have dried up like the economy :(.
This is such a specialized field that all your years of experience won't get you to a bank teller position for a fifth of the salary.

britkit
26th Apr 2012, 16:08
Yes - we're still here! We desperately need a TWR/APP ATCO for full-time, ideally with Met Obs too.

Get in touch with the unit, PM me or see Safeskys website.

Britkit

slowclimber
8th May 2012, 04:50
Not if you look at the Bournemouth job, LXGB! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/boohoo.gif

Bournemouth have just been told to accept a pay cut or reduced staffing.

possibleconsequences
9th May 2012, 09:47
''Bournemouth have just been told to accept a pay cut or reduced staffing.''


No they haven't.

UK_ATCO
26th May 2012, 14:22
I hear that EGNX have been advertising (closing date has passed), but did not see this on Flight Global Jobs. Is there another website or agency that would usually advertise these jobs or is it simply the case of checking each airport's website?

Since this is a Rumour network, are there any rumoured jobs coming up in the near future? I am currently overseas with ADC and APR ratings and very interested in getting back to Blighty at the earliest opportunity! :ok: