Kyrgyzstan Air Company crash in Osh

[BUSHJEPPY]

A Tupolev 134 passenger jet sustained substantial damage in a landing accident at Osh Airport (OSS), Kyrgyzstan.
The airplane reportedly landed hard in dense fog. AKI Press reports that the airplane rolled over, causing the right wing to separate. A fire erupted, but this was quickly contained by airport fire services.
At least seven people were injured.

RIA Novosti

[captjns]

Glad to hear nobody died. Was the wx below mins?

[BUSHJEPPY]

METAR UAFO 280700Z 02002MPS 0300 R12/0550 FG VV001 00/00 Q1023 R12/19//50 TEMPO 0300 FZFG VV002 RMK QFE691/0922 BASE050M=

:ugh:

Tu-134 aircraft flips over during landing in Osh airport, 18 injured
Bishkek (AKIpress) - The Tu-134 aircraft of the Air Company Kyrgyzstan en route Bishkek-Osh today flipped over during landing in the airport of Osh city.

The preliminary cause of the crash is bungled landing. The aircraft flipped over in the result, the right wing and landing wheels were torn away.

The aircraft drove from the landing field to the unpaved area for 40 meters and burst into flame. Airport staff and fire service extinguished fire, passengers were evacuated.

Eighteen passengers were injured. Seven were taken to Osh city hospital, including 6 children. The health condition of a 19 year-old girl, who received serious injuries, is critical.

Some passengers are in the arrival hall. They are provided medical and psychological assistance.

[readywhenreaching]

more infos and pics here:
JACDEC (http://www.jacdec.de/news/news.htm)

[BUSHJEPPY]

Looking at the pictures, Metar and believing that TU-134 is Cat II, obsolete Nav Aids at UOFA (NBD), that must have been a below minima attempt to land ?

[His dudeness]

The published minima (ILS RWY 12) is 550mtr/200ft with full lighting available. There is no CAT II at Osh...

[5 APUs captain]

Some photos:
-134 - press (http://www.kg.akipress.org/news:463241)

P.S.: Descending below minimum - standard reason of the crash

[His dudeness]

Then sod all the investigations. 5 APUs knows it already...

[BUSHJEPPY]

Accident: Altyn T134 at Osh on Dec 28th 2011, hard landing, gear collapse and plane rolled on back


By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Dec 28th 2011 13:54Z, last updated Wednesday, Dec 28th 2011 14:36Z

An Altyn Air (alias Kyrgyzstan Altyn) Tupolev TU-134A, registration EX-020 performing flight QH-3 from Bishkek to Osh (Kyrgyzstan) with 73 passengers and 6 crew, suffered a hard landing resulting in the right main gear collapse, right main wing separation and the airplane rolling on its back while landing on Osh's runway 12 in fog and low visibility around 12:15L (06:15Z), official times of landing varying from 12:05L to 12:48L. The aircraft came to a stop on soft ground about 10 meters off the right runway edge. A fire fed by a fuel leak off the left wing erupted which was quickly extinguished by airport emergency services. One passenger received serious injuries, 24 people received minor injuries (concussions, bruises), 16 of which were taken to local hospitals.

Osh Airport offers a runway 12/30 of 2614 meters/8600 feet length, runway 12 features an ILS approach (DH 70 meters/230 feet, minimum visibility 900 meters/2950 feet for Category C Aircraft).

Metars:
UAFO 280730Z 03001MPS 0300 R12/0550 FG VV001 00/00 Q1024 R12/19 / / 50 NOSIG RMK QFE692/0923 BASE050M
UAFO 280700Z 02002MPS 0300 R12/0550 FG VV001 00/00 Q1023 R12/19 / / 50 TEMPO 0300 VV002 RMK FZFG QFE691/0922 BASE050M
UAFO 280630Z 02002MPS 0500 R12/0750 FZFG VV002 M00/M00 Q1024 R12/19 / / 50 NOSIG RMK QFE692/0923 BASE060M
UAFO 280600Z 04002MPS 0500 R12/0750 FG VV002 00/00 Q1024 R12/19 / / 50 NOSIG RMK QFE692/0922 BASE060M
UAFO 280530Z 08002MPS 0300 R12/0550 FZFG VV002 M00/M00 Q1024 R12/19 / / 50 NOSIG RMK QFE692/0922 BASE060M
UAFO 280500Z 09002MPS 0300 R12/0550 FZFG VV002 M01 / M01 Q1024 R12/19 / / 50 NOSIG RMK QFE692/0922 BASE060M
UAFO 280430Z 00000MPS 0300 R12/0550 FZFG VV002 M01/M01 Q1023 R12/19 / / 50 NOSIG RMK QFE692/0922 BASE060M
UAFO 280400Z 00000MPS 0100 R12/0200 FZFG VV001 M01/M01 Q1023 R12/19 / / 50 NOSIG RMK QFE691/0922 BASE050M

[His dudeness]

NOTAM for OSH:

A0014/11

FROM: 17 FEB 2011 10:00

TO: 31 DEC 2011 23:59

RWY 12/30 EXTENDED 200M FROM THR RWY 12.
RWY 12 THR MARKED AT DIST 200M FROM NEW RWY EXTREMITY.
THERE IS A TURNING PAD FOR ACFT ON DISPLACED THR.
RWY 12/30 LENGTH IS 2814M.
RWY 12: DIST 2814M FROM RWY EXTREMITY AVBL FOR TKOF.
DIST 2614M FROM THR AVBL FOR LDG.
RWY 12: TORA 2714M, TODA 2814M, ASDA 2714M, LDA 2614M.
CWY 250M, WID 150M.
RWY 30: DIST 2814 AVBL FOR TKOF AND LDG.
RWY 30: TORA 2714M, TODA 2814M, ASDA 2714M, LDA 2814M.
CWY 100M, WID 150M.
RWY 12: PALS CAT-I INSTALLED:
RWY THR LGT INSTALLED BEHIND DISPLACED THR ACROSS OVERALL
RWY WIDTH. PAPI INSTALLED AT DIST 250M FROM RWY 12 THR
ON LEFT SIDE OF RWY.
RWY 12: APCH LDG MNM FOR CAT A,B,C,D ACFT - CAT I MNM.
FOR PRECISION APCH AND IFR APCH: DH 60M VIS 800M OR RVR
550M.


Thats also the numbers Jeppesen carries. 60M equals to 200ft.

Don´t know where your number origin?

So if your time (around 1200-1230LT/0600-0630z) is correct, the numbers are okay for a CAT I approach.

[mat777]

more pictures:

How did anyone survive this? Only 26 injured after plane flips on landing - see the pix - they are amazing | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079453/How-did-survive-Only-26-injured-plane-flips-landing--pix--amazing.html)

Impressive that everyone survived

[Ten-miles final]

Quite similar to Tu 134 crash at Samara in March 2007 except fatalities.

[John21UK]

The Aviation Herald link (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4486342a&opt=0).

...a hard landing resulting in the right main gear collapse, right main wing separation and the airplane rolling on its back while landing on Osh's runway 12 in fog and low visibility...

[lakerman]

Don't need an investigation, the two experts on here already know the causes so do not waste your time thinking about it. Being a PC12 pilot gives you accident investigation qualifications.:rolleyes:

[captplaystation]

Tough old birds, but I guess they had to be the way they were / (are) operated :hmm:

[Ten-miles final]

lakerman
I don't jump into any conclusion. Only point out circumstances are similar.
I'm very disappointed you can evaluate somebody's qualification solely looking at post.

[captjns]

Perhaps opinions are being confused for anger at fellow professionals who, as it would appear on the surface, conducting an approach and landing in rather low weather conditions.

Perhaps the Tower provided RVR values equal to or greater than that shown on the METARs at the time just before to after the accident. And there’s the green light to continue beyond the marker.

We can all agree, on the surface, it does appear that the same ingredients were present at this accident too.

However, let’s wait until the interviews and reports are complete before folks try to take up the role of judge and jury and Aviation Accident Investigation Board. At the end of the day will it be necessary to stand in judgment. The crew involved who survived the accident will have and continue to judge themselves, and have to live with the events for the rest of their lives.

The good news is that the passengers who survived will probably travel by train or bus from now on.

[boofhead]

Several DC10s and a couple of MD11s also had similar accidents with a wing coming off on a hard landing. China Airlines had one in Hong Kong with nobody(?) killed.

[firepoint]

Lucky that nobody was killed in this accident. God Bless...

[DouglasFlyer]

Several DC10s and a couple of MD11s also had similar accidents with a wing coming off on a hard landing

Give me clues about the DC-10s - please...

[JanetFlight]

Faro Martinair DC10 maybe...

[DouglasFlyer]

Martinair at Faro was a different story: microburst

[Wellington Bomber]

The RVRs were sufficient to continue to land, just :mad: up on the landing bit.

So get rid off the below minimum rubbish

[beamender99]

Quote:
...a hard landing resulting in the right main gear collapse, right main wing separation and the airplane rolling on its back while landing on Osh's runway 12 in fog and low visibility... From the hard copy Daily Telegraph
".......An Airport spokesman said the Russian TU134 flying from the central Asian republic's capital Bishkek, made a hard landing and flipped, A wing and part of the chassis fell off"

[JammedStab]

Martinair at Faro was a different story: microburst

Actually not a different story as it was another case of the wing coming off due to a high sink rate landing. The difference was the cause of the high sink rate.

[andrasz]

Not the first such TU3 accident, almost exactly the same scenario happened in 1971. (ASN Aircraft accident Tupolev 134A YU-AHZ Rijeka Airport (RJK) (http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19710523-0)) This time they were much luckier in the overall outcome.

It appears that just like with the MD11, overloads from a high sink rate touch-down will break the main wing spar rather than collapse the landing gear. Interesting to compare with the BA 777 LHR accident...

[Ten-miles final]

Jazz Hands

I've referred to this occurrence in post #13, but was blamed for that, so you might be next :} .
Tu 134 is very demanding to banks at flare height because of low wings and negative dihedral (? if I call this feature correctly?), so only 7 degrees of bank is sufficient for contacting ground with wingtip. Many dozens of similar cases (much less dramatic) happened on T34 when in low visibility pilots saw the runway very late and tried to align aircraft with centerline.

[captplaystation]

"negative dihedral" = anhedral ? if my memory serves me well :rolleyes:

[Ten-miles final]

captplaystation (http://www.pprune.org/members/49070-captplaystation)

You're right, I had to look up at the books, shame on me...
That is what I meant.