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sunny_07
21st Nov 2011, 04:02
hello dear friends,
i have a canadian cpl and canadian rt.

could you please tell me the procedute to apply for conversion of canadian rt to indian rt.

any document or forms, link u can giv me ?

thank you

AVIATROZ
21st Nov 2011, 05:56
i have a canadian cpl and a canadian rt....i got my rtr converted to indian one and got a valadity for 3 yrs,but now in jan2012,its gonna be lapsed.so i need to renew it,i heard from friends that if i got 30hrs in previous 36months then i am eligible for getting a renewal for 20yrs,i need to check if this information is correct,can someone please shed some light on this.
thanks friends for your support.

LieDetector
21st Nov 2011, 06:01
Here help yourselves:
WPC Home (http://210.212.79.13/)

sunny_07
21st Nov 2011, 13:35
hello,

i went to WPC HOME link, but i am unable to get any info there about conversion.

could you please tell me where i can exactly find info for conversion on that website,

i'll really appreciate ur help.

thank you

LieDetector
21st Nov 2011, 13:46
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCIQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wpc.dot.gov.in%2FDocFiles%2Fcop-exam-app.doc&ei=RGPKTsKDIYzSrQflytXhCw&usg=AFQjCNGNkn5rFEGCEIaZlbAFWYs83LHFPA

There is a typo in the draft amount, it is Rs 5000/- and not Rs 50/-

sunny_07
21st Nov 2011, 13:51
i found the form,

thank you

flyhigh07
22nd Nov 2011, 00:59
Any nice schools in Canada where i can write exam to convert my faa cpl to Canadian cpl and canadian rt?

please help guys i need to do it fast..

thanks in advance

aviatorzuckeberg
26th Nov 2011, 07:45
I have a FAA and Indian CPL and am plannin to go to canada for my RT as i have failed to clear my RT Part 1 in India numerous times. I am plannin to go by the end of this year or by Jan.....If anybody is interested and is plannin for the same plzzz PM me ASAP...

PS: Also where can i find all the procedures and schools that satisfy my criteria for the same...and how much will it cost and how long will it take to get my RT AND CANADIAN CPL.....any help from people who have been there appreciated....cheap and best place to do also.any job opportunities while i am there if anythin other than aviation will also be appreciated..thanx

LieDetector
26th Nov 2011, 08:02
There are literally a dozen threads on this topic, search around.

Also how did you get an Indian CPL without a valid FRTROL?

PT6A
26th Nov 2011, 15:48
I know many Indians who were issued licences by the DGCA on the basis of their FAA certificate and the FCC radio...

Further, if one wishes to obtain a licence issued by Transport Canada and that person already holds an FAA airman certificate then he/she may be issued a licence by Transport Canada after passing a simple 25 question written test... Oh and there is no need to pay a bribe or take sweets to TC :}

As for my golf balls..... I only use v1's

PT6A

B737NG
26th Nov 2011, 21:17
PT6A... I am also on your side and thougt "incredibble" enough and it cannot be topped now. Everytime I wake up I see something more to wonder.

As soon as most of these spoon fed "kidīs" have to face reality they try search for a way to circumnavigate rules and regulations and jump thru the backdoor and appear as the big cheese.

Failed to clear a subject here and make it there to show up later at the door step and make noise. Why not sit and study and clear it at the license issuing Authority? Direct way, clear and clean? not filthy at least.

aviatorzuckeberg
27th Nov 2011, 06:10
i do have a valid INDIAN FRTO......

9FLYJET9
27th Nov 2011, 11:43
If you have indian cpl and indian frtol, then you are sorted bro..
What else are you looking for..

Aviator_Prat
27th Nov 2011, 13:24
FRTOL without any RTR(A) on a FAA licence! Dosent sound clean! :=

cyrilroy21
27th Nov 2011, 14:18
@B737NG & PT6A

In order to obtain an RTR ( A ) license one has to clear both part 1 of the exam and part2 which is an oral exam .

Its conducted by the ministry of communications the WPC wing .

The people who set the questions and conduct the exam are not pilots . This department has no relation to the DGCA or the ministry of civil aviation .
They are usually electrical engineers who work for the Ministry and have never talked on an aircraft radio before
Yet they set the questions ( very weird questions infact ) and you are expected to answer them according to their methods .

One needs very specific coaching in order to pass this kind of exams .
I took coaching from MK Singh . One of things he told us was to use the word " HEAVY " at the end of your call sign if your aircraft was an AIRBUS A320 or BOEING 737 or bigger . You will receive two marks for this if you do so .

Another question that i had was
Q. You are overflying Goa . Take Action :confused:

As you can see the answers are very specific in nature . When i was in class there was candidates from air force pilots to airline captains attending the classes . These pilots talk on the aircraft radio as part of their profession everyday and are yet unable to clear the part 1 exam and have to take coaching classes .
This is because the engineers at the WPC set the questions and expect very specific answers to their questions than the real answer :ugh:


Why not sit and study and clear it at the license issuing Authority
Part 1 of the exam is not something that you can just open a book and study by yourself .
Hence the reason why lots of pilots both experienced or otherwise find it very difficult to clear .

We all wish that things work that way in Indian Aviation where you study for it and are rewarded accordingly but the RT exam is purely at the whim and fancy of the govt engineer who corrects your paper .

Trust me you dont want to know the kind of questions they ask in part 2 of the exam .

PT6A
27th Nov 2011, 16:54
If Indian RT exams are so strict.... Then why everytime I am in Indian airspace is the radio in such a mess?

People whistling and shouting to their mates... Arguing with ATC and each other!

This is not a one off but every single time.... Something that would pro pt a serious investigation in Europe.

Capt.Morrgan
27th Nov 2011, 18:56
@PT6A: did you not read cyrilroy21's post at all? Where in his, very detailed and beautifully articulated, post has he mentioned or implied the word 'strict'. I see words/phrases like 'weird', 'whim & fancy of the engineer' etc which to me translate into an idiotic mechanism of testing which makes little sense but a whole lot of rupees for the so called engineers. Not arguing with what you stated but the problem you mention has little to no relevance with what goes on in preparing or taking these tests.
-CM

aviatorzuckeberg
28th Nov 2011, 06:56
i am amazed at so much reaction tht this forum has created yet no one is able to guide me to the right thread where i can find the details on canadian CPL AND RT....

flyhigh07
28th Nov 2011, 12:20
Even I am trying to get my Canadian cpl and rt, I have contacted Brampton flight centre,Ontario (just google it), they even sent me an invitation letter for the visa!! Seems to have good reviews too,please PM me if you have any other place in your mind..

PT6A
28th Nov 2011, 14:03
Aviator,

I thought I had made it clear above I guess not.....

If you hold an FAA airman certificate you do not need to undertake any flight training to be issued with a Canadian licence.

Call up Transport Canada and make an appoitment to take the FAAA exam (25 questions) Get a TC medical and then TC will check your details with the FAA and then print you out a Canadian licence.

Simples!

No need to be attending an FTO

siddhanta_alc
30th Nov 2011, 02:57
this is a CHPL holder dying hard to clear RTR after giving 2 attempts already

i need sample questions , questions that are asked in part 2
part 1 the only issure would be SID./ STAR/ INSTRUMENT QUESTIONS where you need to reFER the chart BACk Of ThE maps
if you could mail me any substance that you have got or any reccomendations or questions you remember please do..
[email protected]
thanks guys

GENERAL MANAGER
1st Dec 2011, 05:19
Hi guys i have a canadian rt as well as a canadian cpl .
My indian Rt lapsed this October.
Do we yet need 30 hrs in the last years to renew our indian rt and can we pay a dd of 5000/- and get it extended for another 20 yrs.

aviatorzuckeberg
1st Dec 2011, 06:51
NO TXT SPK THNX
HWB

Johny Boy
1st Dec 2011, 07:15
If you are so desperate to clear your RTR exams then get hold of some AGENTS rather than bringing up each and every single RTR thread alive with same POST.

If you do not get a reply in a single thread then chances are you won't get on others too....

Get some RTR PIMP...:mad:

PT6A
1st Dec 2011, 10:54
Man,

Let me say it s l ow l y again.. convert your FAA it is a quick 25 question test.

They wont give you any credit for your Indian licence and you will have to go through the Canadian system.

Step 1 get a Transport Canada initial Class 1 Medical

Step 2 while waiting for the Transport Canada file number (which you will get in the post) study for the FAAA test some good study guides online for about 100USD.

Step 3 once getting the TC file number, make an appoitment and attend a Transport Canada office, take the test.. If you pass they will issue you a temp licence with all your certificates and ratings from the FAA licence.

Step 4 in the post you will get your actual TC licence.


Do NOT try to use your Indian licence to do any of this, it is NOT accepted and will cost you big bucks as you have to start from scratch.

Do what I say above and you will be outnof pocket only for the medical, faaaa test, licence issue and travel expenses.

PT6A
I cant make it anymore simple for you!

sunny_07
3rd Dec 2011, 16:28
i am in brampton flight centre

Capt.Morrgan
6th Dec 2011, 15:44
Hello guys-
Has anyone been able to download their admit card, for the Hyd attempt, from the wpc site yet? Thx!
-CM

issues
7th Dec 2011, 19:19
Yup I got mine

princeofmatrix
8th Dec 2011, 07:49
Yes I got mine...I suppose the website started working properly since yesterday only (07/12/2011).