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ORAC
23rd Nov 2011, 14:30
Russia Prepares to ‘Destroy’ U.S. Shield, Medvedev Says (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-11-23/russia-prepares-to-destroy-u-s-shield-medvedev-says.html)

Nov. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Russian President Dmitry Medvedev ordered the military to prepare to “destroy” the command capability of the planned U.S. missile-defense system in Europe.

Russia may also station strike missiles on its southern and western flanks, including Iskander rockets (Russia Prepares to ‘Destroy’ U.S. Shield)in the Kaliningrad exclave between Poland and Lithuania, both members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the European Union, Medvedev said on state television today.

“I have ordered the armed forces to develop measures to ensure, if necessary, that we can destroy the command and control systems” of the U.S. shield,’’ Medvedev said. “These measures are appropriate, effective and low-cost.”

Russia has warned the U.S.-led plan may provoke a new arms race and upset a strategic balance in the region by threatening its nuclear deterrent capability. The U.S. is ignoring Russia’s concerns about positioning parts of the shield in eastern Europe and “accelerating” its development, Medvedev said.

Spain became the fourth European nation agreeing to participate directly in the missile defense program, intended to protect against attacks from adversaries such as Iran. President Barack Obama pursued plans for the Europe-wide system in 2009, and the administration has also obtained agreements with Poland, Romania and Turkey to host elements of the shield.

Modern Elmo
23rd Nov 2011, 14:43
Russia may also station strike missiles on its southern and western flanks, including Iskander rockets in the Kaliningrad exclave between Poland and Lithuania, both members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the European Union, Medvedev said on state television today.

It's about more than missiles.

The underlying issue is the continued independence of Poland and the three Baltic from Russland.

Also, I have wondered if Germany will ever want/ask/demand for Kalingrad to be Koenigsberg again.

TheWestCoast
23rd Nov 2011, 17:56
Huh. Being able to do it is one thing, but coming out and actually saying it, if the translation is correct, is somewhat inflammatory.

Ivan's getting sick of not even being considered second best. I think we should consider them more of a threat than PRC, who have a lot more to lose in terms of their economic progress.

JFZ90
23rd Nov 2011, 22:40
Do Russia really have to worry about the shield? I had assumed that it was more against emerging Iran type threats, rather than being able to counter a full on old school ICBM threat with penetration aids etc.

I would have thought Russia could just shrug it off as just a modern take on the limited ABM installations from the cold war that were never intended to counter the overall MAD stalemate/philosophy?

jamesdevice
23rd Nov 2011, 23:03
the commies could just be saying "up yours" to Obama
Seems the feeling is spreading - see this news readers action when she says "Barak Obama"
Tatiana Limanova Gives Middle Finger - YouTube

GreenKnight121
24th Nov 2011, 04:20
Or Tsar Vladimir (I, III, or IV depending on how you count them) could be planning to restore to Russia the lands held in the time of Tsar Nicholas II.


That is the fear of Poland, the Baltic states, and the Ukraine... which is why the US/NATO missile shield is attractive to them.

Jollygreengiant64
24th Nov 2011, 18:11
Seeing as Vlad is an agent of the KGB, rather than a western politician, and that in Russia the macho man image is seemingly quite central to male life, It surprises me why some people are surprised by Russian willy-waving. Whether or not there is any substance behind the words is yet to be seen, but, many of you seem to get a bit nostalgic for the olden days... Let those guys dream too

racedo
24th Nov 2011, 18:39
Whether or not there is any substance behind the words is yet to be seen,

An Austrian corporal though there was no substance behind Russia in the past......

TEEEJ
25th Nov 2011, 02:07
Jamesdevice,

Limanova has stated that she was gesturing at technical workers behind the camera who were trying to distract her. She thought she was off camera.

She has now been fired.

Russian newsreader Tatyana Limanova fired for giving Obama the finger | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065820/Russian-newsreader-Tatyana-Limanova-fired-giving-Obama-finger.html)