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IO540
18th Nov 2011, 15:54
Here (http://www.sportys.com/PilotShop/product/16850)

There are other products which do a similar thing but not many that are nicely packaged.

One can usually transmit an SMS at or below 2000ft AGL.

S-Works
18th Nov 2011, 16:35
One can usually transmit an SMS at or below 2000ft AGL.

Not sure I would be happy to rely on the 'usually' part of that statement!!

We use one that scans a radio frequency.

IO540
18th Nov 2011, 17:27
That one is a lot better :ok:

Lasiorhinus
20th Nov 2011, 12:05
Stick to VHF. Install one of these.

Airport Alliance - Airport electrical and electronic engineering specialists - PALC Hardware (http://www.airportalliance.com.au/PALC%20hardware.htm)

Cusco
20th Nov 2011, 12:09
Not sure I would be happy to rely on the 'usually' part of that statement!!

We use one that scans a radio frequency.


Is pilot controlled lighting switchable from the air now legal in the UK?

Peter

edited for morons

Lasiorhinus
20th Nov 2011, 12:17
If its not, how on earth do you turn the lights on normally??:eek:

Intercepted
20th Nov 2011, 12:41
If its not, how on earth do you turn the lights on normally??http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/eek.gif

You don't do it from air. Pre book a lights on time (automatically) before you take off and wait for SMS confirmation. My understanding is that this is CAAs preferred way of doing it and I'm not going to add what I think about that.

IO540
20th Nov 2011, 13:16
Stick to VHF. Install one of these.

Airport Alliance - Airport electrical and electronic engineering specialists - PALC Hardware (http://www.airportalliance.com.au/PALC%20hardware.htm)

It's 19" rack mounted so it must be good ;)

You don't do it from air. Pre book a lights on time (automatically) before you take off and wait for SMS confirmation. My understanding is that this is CAAs preferred way of doing it and I'm not going to add what I think about that.

That's outrageous :yuk:

One of the things I like about pprune is that the puke emoticon is within easy reach.

S-Works
20th Nov 2011, 16:39
Quote:
Not sure I would be happy to rely on the 'usually' part of that statement!!

We use one that scans a radio frequency.
Is pilot controlled lighting switchable from the air now legal in the UK?

Peter

edited for morons

It's never been illegal to my knowledge. We can go around the mill on the use of radio frequencies etc.....

A819
21st Nov 2011, 10:09
CAP 168 chapter 6

11.1.3 The control of an AGL system from beyond the boundary of a licensed aerodrome will
only be approved by the CAA for the sole use of the emergency services. Where this
type of control is desired, an operational requirement proposed by the aerodrome
authority and supported by the emergency services involved should be submitted in
the first instance to the CAA.It specifically says "licensed aerodrome"

S-Works
21st Nov 2011, 10:40
Yes, and it says nothing about an unlicenced aerodrome.

It also does not indicate that it is illegal at a licenced aerodrome either, just that approval is required.

So like I said, to my knowledge it has never been 'illegal' to use pilot controlled lighting.

Rod1
21st Nov 2011, 12:33
It was possible to do this at Tataenhill for many years, but it was stopped about 3 years ago – no idea why.

Rod1

Tinstaafl
22nd Nov 2011, 00:05
There used to be a mob that sold airfield marker cones that each had a solar powered LED light , battery & VHF receiver fitted. Quite a neat idea, I thought, and with the advantage that each cone was independent so the failure of a few didn't fail the whole system.

Spitoon
22nd Nov 2011, 05:15
The business of PCL use in the UK was discussed at length a little while ago here. (http://www.pprune.org/private-flying/419236-pilot-controlled-lighting-uk.html) This thread seems to be drifting toward the legalities again - it doesn't seem that much has changed since the last thread was active. And that includes the views of individuals who are posting!

IO540
22nd Nov 2011, 09:07
I reckon that if you set up PCL nobody would make you take it out. The CAA would not want to see this tested in a court, because it would expose an outrageous attitude towards safety.

And if you used SMS then I am 100.000% sure.