View Full Version : Spectacular Crash-Landing in Residential Area
Deeday
28th Aug 2011, 13:34
Another tale of forced landings over built up areas, with happy ending this time:
AP-EU-Germany-Crash-Landing (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jhhT9VimfqqnruRGRpidk-L8W3EQ?docId=2570ca1241624b66b3a4bd1bb3aad1de)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/29/article-2031311-0D9B481E00000578-326_634x527.jpg
DX Wombat
28th Aug 2011, 13:45
Wow! That looks very tight. :ooh: Well done that pilot. :D
hvogt
28th Aug 2011, 20:18
A C172 crash-landed in a residential area today in Germany. Nobody injured. Seems like the Hudson miracle of general aviation.
Article (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jhhT9VimfqqnruRGRpidk-L8W3EQ?docId=2570ca1241624b66b3a4bd1bb3aad1de&index=0).
MarcJF
28th Aug 2011, 20:31
Good work by the pilot, not much room for error there.
westhawk
28th Aug 2011, 20:49
Well maybe not quite like Sully's river run, but a pretty good outcome nonetheless.
During the time I was stationed in Deutschland, this crazy German kid named Mathias Rust flew to Moscow and landed a Skyhawk in Red Square. Half the Russian air defense units in the Western theater had new commanders within the week. I thought it a miracle the incident didn't start WWIII.
Walder
28th Aug 2011, 20:51
A C172 crash-landed in a residential area today in Germany. Nobody injured. Seems like the Hudson miracle of general aviation.
Article (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jhhT9VimfqqnruRGRpidk-L8W3EQ?docId=2570ca1241624b66b3a4bd1bb3aad1de&index=0).
The Airplane were not that big - it was an C-150:8
ASN Aircraft accident 28-AUG-2011 Cessna 150F N6619F (http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=138219)
Good job anyway:ok:
Walder:p
By the looks of the Reg (N) he was from out of town.
C-172ER, Maybe he was out of gas, long range cruise VS econ, etc.
During the time I was stationed in Deutschland, this crazy German kid named Mathias Rust flew to Moscow and landed a Skyhawk in Red Square.
Bit of an aside, but that Red Square thing was journalistic licence. He actually landed on a bridge a few blocks away, then taxied a bit closer to the square.
Half the Russian air defense units in the Western theater had new commanders within the week.
True, although I believe this incident was more of a welcome excuse than the actual cause, as it became known years latter.
Apologies for the drift.
I remember my first instructor telling me that during forced landings Number 1 Priority was to descend with airspeed under control, and Number 2 was to avoid hitting anything with the fuselage. The exact location for the landing was Number 3. His experience included flying Bird Dogs under ground fire in Korea, and I think this shows he had the right idea!
That seems like very sensible advice. Thanks for sharing.
airpolice
30th Aug 2011, 10:50
So....is nobody going to ask how he came to be so short of landing options?
This looks like another case of flying over a built up area without thinking it through.
Should there not be some sort of legislation about this kind of thing...perhaps even a RULE of the Air?
That way the CAA could produce a leaflet, called, something like Safety Sense. http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/crossing%20large%20built-up%20areas.pdf
This looks like another case of flying over a built up area without thinking it through.
In this case it could very well be a bit premature to jump to such conclusions.
The aircraft was approaching to land at Aschaffenburg-Grossostheim. The circuit is to the north of the airfield, with entry on the downwind leg from the north. Frankfurt Airspace C is on top, starting at 3500 ft MSL. Have a look at it all at Google Maps, and you'll see that there were not many options.
According to the article the pilot choose the street over filled with fences and animals.
I wasn't there with him but that sounds a little dodgy.
In any case they survived without too many injuries, that's the good thing.
It may seem a miracle but a quick Google search brings up quite a few landings on a public street:
Mesa Arizona:
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/eastvalleytribune.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/b/57/889/b5788920-4fe8-5bce-8a62-b984ce11f985.preview-300.jpg
Source: Plane crash-lands on Mesa street - East Valley Tribune: Home (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/article_bdc98109-97e2-5bfb-9699-9d1b7ce44152.html)
South Wales:
http://images.smh.com.au/2011/02/09/2175628/smithfield-wesleylonergan42-420x0.jpg
http://www.allword-news.co.uk/images/US%20Plane%20Crash%20Lands%20On%20Toilets.jpg
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/napavalleyregister.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/39/7395bc59-ee09-5daf-9920-8c4cfbcc5af3/4e5ac4469302e.image.jpg
http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/10/18/news/photos_stories/cropped/death_planes--300x150.jpg
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2007/world/1908_plane_a.jpg
http://brightcove01.brightcove.com/2/268012958001/268012958001_907428179001_vs-907412733001.jpg?pubId=268012958001
This is probably one of the most haunting pictures, taken minutes after the crash with the dazed pilot still (s)trapped in his seat:
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_03/bobrobertsMS2209_800x491.jpg
Flying Lawyer
30th Aug 2011, 19:00
airpolice So....is nobody going to ask how he came to be so short of landing options?
I'm not.
If the pilot is a Ppruner I assume he/she will tell us in due course.
If not, it just encourages speculation - which, unfortunately, frequently takes the form of speculating about the various ways in which the pilot be at fault.
On the bare facts known: Well done to him/her. :ok:
Not much room to spare.
FL
Bronx
30th Aug 2011, 19:37
http://www.pprune.org/private-flying/101076-pilot-dock-running-out-fuel-update-pilot-cleared-merged.html
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39470000/jpg/_39470975_plane_crash_bbc_203.jpg
WestWind1950
30th Aug 2011, 19:57
there are too many airfields with built up areas just under the traffic pattern or in the take-off area with few options. Even the experts say this guy did a good job (in German only, sorry) (http://www.main-netz.de/nachrichten/region/aschaffenburg/aschaffenburg-land/land/art3986,1775161)
One of the most dangerous fields in Germany is Mannheim... take-off to the west right over the city, to the east a highway and homes.... google it.
Santa Monica, CA yesterday. Student pilot doing his XC from KSMO to KSBA.
Did he pass? :8
Hodja
31st Aug 2011, 03:56
Yikes. I did the exact same trip KSMO-KSBA 3 days ago in a C172 on my instrument checkride. (passed btw :8)
Looks like he crashed at Navy St & 21st - shouldn't he have been over the golf course at this point instead? (VFR departures on rwy 21 usually entails a noise abated left turn over a local golf course right after takeoff)
patowalker
31st Aug 2011, 07:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by B2N2
This is probably one of the most haunting pictures, taken minutes after the crash with the dazed pilot still (s)trapped in his seat:
Amazing, he even managed to crash inside the yellow taped off area!! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif
It's Arnie. :)
airpolice
31st Aug 2011, 08:16
It's Arnie. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif
Looks more like Bruce Willis doing yet another "Die Hard" movie.
Pull what
31st Aug 2011, 14:31
Be interesting to see that guys log book entry for that flight