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camino
9th Aug 2011, 13:10
Any further news of this mornings crash?

"A two-seater plane has crashed near Slievenamon in Co Tipperary

The plane crashed in a field beside a wooded area near Slievenamon around 11.30am.

Gardaí said the light aircraft came down at Ballyduggan, 2km from the village of Mullinahone.

It is understood there were two men on board and both have been injured."

Two injured in small plane crash in Tipperary - RT News (http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0809/tipperary.html)

Update.....

UK registered, Cessna two-seater

http://content.tv3.ie/content/images/0218/plane_b_65608.jpg

http://content.tv3.ie/content/images/0218/plane_c_65609.jpg

stevelup
9th Aug 2011, 15:42
UK registered, Cessna two-seater

Unless they have suddenly branched out into the flexwing microlight market, that's no Cessna!

WILCO.XMG
9th Aug 2011, 15:46
That is one managled aircraft. I have no idea what type it is.

P.S. Is that what looks like end end of a grass airstrip?

camino
9th Aug 2011, 16:31
Was thinking that myself.

They have now changed the article to call it a microlight.

Two injured in light airplane crash - TV3 (http://www.tv3.ie/article.php?article_id=61581&locID=1.2&pagename=news)

Microflight
9th Aug 2011, 17:38
Its a G reg Pegasus flex wing microlight based in Kilkenny airfield. I sincerely hope the guys are ok.

Genghis the Engineer
9th Aug 2011, 18:36
Looks like a Pegasus Quick or GT450 to me.

Roll-over accidents in flexwings are one of the most common accidents in that aeroplane class, and since in the UK rear seat upper torso restraints became mandatory about 10 years ago I don't think have normally been fatal. Nasty yes, and I hope that the pilot and passenger's injuries are happily minor.

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thing
9th Aug 2011, 19:05
What's a rollover accident?

patowalker
9th Aug 2011, 19:19
One where there are no winners.

Ultra long hauler
9th Aug 2011, 19:27
Unless they have suddenly branched out into the flexwing microlight market, that's no Cessna!

Looks very much like an Apollo Delta Jet as well........

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3820316/HCU0063%20kopie.jpg

###Ultra Long Hauler###

stickandrudderman
9th Aug 2011, 21:52
One where there are no winners.

Superb! (as long as no-one died!):D

camino
10th Aug 2011, 08:21
G-BZOO , Pegasus Quantum according to this report.

Pilot in critical condition after microlight plane in terrifying plunge from sky - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie (http://www.independent.ie/national-news/pilot-in-critical-condition-after-microlight-plane-in-terrifying-plunge-from-sky-2844180.html)

Genghis the Engineer
10th Aug 2011, 10:21
ULH - spats are wrong and you can see a P&M logo on the nosecone.

I doubt it's G-BZOO. Looking at pictures of that particular airframe online it has a purple pod and purple & white wing, whilst the aeroplane in those photos has a blue pod and you can clearly see yellow in the wing.

A rollover accident normally happens on landing where after touchdown the pilot fails to adequately keep the wing tilted to match the crosswind, and the combination of sideways force on the wing, with drag on the wheels keeping it on the runway, rolls the whole aeroplane over sideways. These used to carry a significant fatality risk, normally where the rear seat passenger (or instructor)'s body came forward and broke the neck of the front seat pilot. This pattern was picked up by AAIB around 10 years ago and as a result BMAA and CAA in the UK mandated rear cockpit upper torso restraints - which upset a lot of instructors because it did make their lives much harder, but seems to have eliminated about 1 dead body every 3 years historically.

As an aside, I was involved in that decision, and worked out that we were spending a one-off of about £50,000 of other peoples money across the fleet - to save probably a life every 3 years. One of the easiest airworthiness (and spending) decisions I've ever had to justify.

Another observation of that crash photograph - you can see training bars (rear seat dual controls) in the wreckage, so it seems likely that this was an instructional sortie. Interesting that this was apparently then a British aircraft flying an instructional sortie in the Republic of Ireland where, according to BMAA's website at-least, there's no UK registered training facility.

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swopiv
12th Aug 2011, 12:38
Another observation of that crash photograph - you can see training bars (rear seat dual controls) in the wreckage, so it seems likely that this was an instructional sortie. Interesting that this was apparently then a British aircraft flying an instructional sortie in the Republic of Ireland where, according to BMAA's website at-least, there's no UK registered training facility.

Not necessarily. I have training bars fitted to my machine, but I am no instructor. I just like letting my passengers have a 'go'. In fact, aren't most of the new P+M machines fitted with training bars as standard these days?