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Faisal Tasleem
2nd Jul 2011, 10:05
Dear Sir/MAM,

In first line I would like to start with the sentense that I know "Canada is a great country''. But the problem is that Europe is near for us "from Pakistan"... SO I am planning to move to Ukraine (Eastern Europe) and is expected to join EU in coming years...

Anyhow coming to the point; I want to do "Commercial Pilot's license" (CPL with 200 hours). The problem I have here is to choose either doing it from Pakistan is better or from Ukraine. Because here in "Middle East" the pilots of "Askari Pakistan" are preferred; and you know Middle East because of their petrol give nice salery like around 200 000 $ as a starter...

And in Europe I guess Ukrainian pilot will be given more preference because it's near to EU and have a lot of similarities... But I am really confused; my dad always asks me 'which one is better' and I am always left speechless so what I want is a professional idea from you professional friends...


One more thing.... when I go to any airline website and see for the career vacancies.. what they ask is for 'first officer' aka Junior pilot. The minimum requirment is 1000 hours ... Now the problem which bugs is that from my CPL instite I will only get 200 hours. What about the rest of 800 hours??


I look forward for a professional assistance.

Thank you

Faisal Tasleem
3rd Jul 2011, 13:21
Ahaaa,

Thank you sir :D for this answer... The thing is sir that after getting a C.P.L I want to apply in for work in middle east and Europe... And you know airlines give the visa or nuccessery documents when they appoint someone from Overseas. My basic question was that doing C.P.L is important from which place? Either from Pakistan or Ukraine??? The main question was this... Any reply would be appreciated... :)

Thanks.

Tu.114
3rd Jul 2011, 16:36
airlines give the visa or nuccessery documents when they appoint someone from Overseas.

Sorry, but this is untrue, at least for Europe. An airline has no authority to provide You with the necessary documents to give You the right to work in the EU.

So You will need to:
1. obtain the legal right to work in the respective country;
2. get the required license - in Europe, a JAR-FCL conform license is required. Neither Pakistani nor Ukrainian authorities will issue such a license, so You could either
a. attend an European FTO
b. take the required examinations to convert Your previously obtained Pakistani or Ukrainian license into a JAR-FCL one.

3. apply with the European airline of Your choice after all of the aforementioned items have been sorted out.

However, do consider the following before You begin to spend any money:

1. European airlines usually require excellent command of both their national and the English language.

2. The job market for low-hour pilots is not very inviting - there are WAY more aspirants than there are jobs, and if You get a job, it might not quite be what You aspired for initially. I strongly advise a major browse in the following: Interviews, jobs & sponsorship - PPRuNe Forums (http://www.pprune.org/interviews-jobs-sponsorship-104/) to get an idea.

Jerry Lee
3rd Jul 2011, 17:48
I'm sorry to tell you that in Europe no one will sponsor you.

Anyway, you can work in Middle East and Asia, places where commercial aviation is growing up.

Northbeach
3rd Jul 2011, 20:34
May I recommend that you spend time reading the Professional Pilots Study/Training section under the wannabes forums. Start here: Wannabes Forums - PPRuNe Forums (http://www.pprune.org/wannabes-forums-102/)

To simply tell you to do one option and send you on your way would be a complete disservice to you.

After you have read through those training and I-want-to-be-a-pilot threads you will have a much better picture of the training and career path options ahead of you.

To start with you will not go from 200 hours to $200,000 anytime soon.

And yes, unless you are a President's son/daughter you will start out as a "First Officer". But you will likely have to take several other steps before you are hired as a First Officer at a international jet carrier.

After a commercial pilots course and 200 hours your training is really just beginning....not over.

There is a lot to learn about the industry; have fun learning.

I wish you the best.

Respectfully,

Northbeach