Marenco Swiss Helicopter

[ILblog]

In latest issue or Rotor and Wing I have seen the ad, that catched my eyes.

A Swiss company intends develop a new SE helicopter. 5 blade rotor, fenestron, sleek design, impressive perf. Their website is at

Www.marenco-swisshelicopter.com

There is not so much info on their web, just couple of 3d models. Do you have more info about it? What are the people behind, funding, timeline?

[chopper2004]

I talked to one of their head guys at Heli Expo a fortnight ago and from what I gathered, the first test flight is scheduled for next year. The beauty of the cockpit design is the practical application for underslung load operations and that is an observation window between the pilot and co-pilot's seats.

My pic of the SKYe SH09 are here in the Heli Expo 2011 thread however I am putting on this thread here for you :ok:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/longranger/P3070712.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/longranger/P3070718.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/longranger/P3070713.jpg

Cheers
Chopper2004

[Aser]

Rotor & Wing Magazine :: Marenco SKYe SH09: ‘Not a Facelift Aircraft’ (http://www.aviationtoday.com/rw/commercial/ems/72822.html)

Marenco SKYe SH09: ‘Not a Facelift Aircraft’
New design helicopter to feature carbon fiber airframe, Sagem Avionics, Honeywell HTS900 engine.


Interesting at least...

Regards
Aser

[Peter3127]

Anybody hear of progress on this machine by Marenco Swisshelicopter?:hmm:

Update 2 August: I have emailed them and asked the question.:8

[Harry the Hun]

Wow, what a brilliant machine! 8 passengers, 145 Kts, 3 hours endurance, all weather capability, Impressive hot and high performance and all that with a 2,5 ton single!
They should put a dual hoist to it and advertise it as the future long range SAR helicopter.

I allways believed the swiss were more realistic, but then you never know which pills they had for breakfast.

[HueyDog]

If they go through with this helicopter I hope that they are able to met the posted capabilities AND understand that just building a nice helicopter is only part of the equation. It also requires a good customer support system to make it a success. Unfortunately this is something that several manufacturers have never understood and several other manufacturers seem to be in the process of forgetting.

[chopper2004]

Been checking their website and doesn't appear to be many updates. Though the first flight from what I gather at Heli Expo should be pretty soon though, like before the end of the year.

[BlueWhiteSky]

Could be this one? Something to do with Marenco?

Hubschrauberproduktion in Altenburg? (http://www.airliners.de/verkehr/infrastruktur/hubschrauberproduktion-in-altenburg/28494)

In short: A swiss holding company wants to buy property at the Altenburg airport to built a Helicopter production plant.
Deal not fixed yet, but expected this month.

[Savoia]

Marenco to Roll Out SKYe09 on 28th November

HeliHub: 18 Nov, 13

Marenco Swisshelicopter has announced the roll out of its SKYe SH09 prototype helicopter and which is scheduled to take place on November 28th 2013 at Mollis airport in Switzerland where MSH staff together with their team of suppliers will welcome press and dignitaries from across the industry and throughout the region.

http://marenco-swisshelicopter.ch/wp-content/uploads/home_skier.jpg

“Our teams have made outstanding progress in completing the first prototype and in processing the certification of the SKYe SH09” said Martin Stucki, Chief Executive Officer and designer of the helicopter. He noted “This important achievement is the result of combined efforts from our staff and from our suppliers”.

Mathias Senes, Commercial Director, points out that it is rather unique to reach such detailed quality in a first prototype and ads “our prospects and clients will witness our commitment to quality and will certainly value what we meant by High Visibility Cockpit”.

HeliHub: Marenco Roll Out (http://helihub.com/2013/11/18/marenco-to-officially-roll-out-skye09-on-28th-november/)

[chopper2004]

I was lucky enough to be invited to attend yesterday's unveiling :)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/longranger/IMG_7486_zpsd29b6cec.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/longranger/IMG_7490_zpsa2d37b08.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/longranger/IMG_7510_zpsdb5fa375.jpg

Cheers

[Savoia]

Chopper, great stuff! :ok:

Are you able to provide some feedback on any statements made by Marenco during the 'roll out'?

[Gordy]

Rollout.....?

This helicopter has been on display at HAI for the last 2 years.

[skadi]

Rollout.....?

This helicopter has been on display at HAI for the last 2 years.

But this seems to be the real thing; f. e. just check the rotorhead. Quite a difference between the red HAI mockup and the latest pics.

skadi

[HeliHenri]

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HB-ZXA is s/n 01 registered just few weeks ago so yesterday morning was the roll out ! :)
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[chopper2004]

On the experimental / exemptions with FOCA as you can see from my photo :)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/longranger/1453291_10152639258051490_229698549_n_zps85dc3b56.jpg

[chopper2004]

Just seen on mates FB page, he has shared some guy's amateur video footage outside a Swiss airport of the prototype flying.

Here's a screen dump

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/longranger/marenco_flight_perhaps_zps38d65afd.jpg

and just got the official press release emailed to me

Cheers

[helihub]

http://helihub.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/sh09-ff1-2x.jpg

http://helihub.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/141002-sh09-ff2.jpg

[HeliHenri]

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We can find the press release here :

Marenco completes first flight of SKYe SH09 | Helihub - the Helicopter Industry Data Source (http://helihub.com/2014/10/02/marenco-completes-first-flight-of-skye-sh09/)

Long live the SKYe SH09 :ok:

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[PhlyingGuy]

It's always great to see another helicopter fly for the first time! Well-wishes on flight test!

[Vertical Freedom]

Namaaste

WoW awesome looks & a big well done Team :ok::D

Please, a machine to Nepal & I would be honored to test fly her up too Sagarmatha's peak >29,000' & land her where-ever she's happily capable (25,000'? or but above 23,000') ;)

Happy Landings :)

VF

[Arrrj]

VF,

You beat me to it. :D

I would be happy to fly one around AUS for a few months and test it out in our "harsh" environment ! (Beaches, lunch, mountains etc)...

Looks great...hope it performs as good as it looks...unlike other pretty helis out there.

Arrrj

[Vertical Freedom]

Hey Arrj

Oz ain't that harsh, been there done that.....Nepal has sand, ice, bull dust, snow, mud & crazy high DA's at crazy high landing altitudes :ooh: 16,500' for a Jettie & 24,400' in B3+ :{

We actually need a higher working machine........the B3's top out around 25,000' :eek:

Happy Happy :ok:

VF

[HeliHenri]

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Test Vehicule number 2 with its new livery :ok:

http://www.marenco-swisshelicopter.ch/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_3974-1024x685.jpg

[rotorrookie]

In Air Zermatt colors :D

[Thracian]

Is there already any statement on scheduled certifaction date, public availability and pricing?

On their web site there's nothing, as it seems.

Thracian

[Ian Corrigible]

Is there already any statement on scheduled certifaction date
Original target = 2014 (http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/aviation-international-news/2011-07-27/marenco-details-production-plans-skye-single). Latest info = 2017 (http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/general-aviation/2016-03-02/marenco-builds-sales-new-skye-sh09-helicopter).
public availability
Original target = 2015 (http://www.marenco-swisshelicopter.ch/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2011_05_AWST-AimingHigh-Marenco%20(MOCKUP).pdf). Latest info = 2017+ (http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/general-aviation/2016-03-02/marenco-builds-sales-new-skye-sh09-helicopter).
pricing?
Original target = US$2.6 Mil (http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/2011-03-04/heli-expo-2011-marenco-unveils-skye-light-helicopter). Latest info = US$3.5 Mil+ (http://www.helipress.it/schede-660-marenco_ready_for_the_market_challenge_with_the_skye_sh09_vi deo).

I/C

[HeliHenri]

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Hard to give such precises info when you are an all new company developping an all new product.

Regarding safety (my personnal obsession) The SH09 seems to bring real progress in its category so I wish her all the best ! :)
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[Cyril Lambiel]

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Hard to give such precises info when you are an all new company developping an all new product.

Regarding safety (my personnal obsession) The SH09 seems to bring real progress in its category so I wish her all the best ! :)
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Hard to give such precises info when you are an all new company developping an all new product.

Regarding safety (my personnal obsession) The SH09 seems to bring real progress in its category so I wish her all the best !
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Showing real progress (safety) in category? Some examples?

[9Aplus]

Jeremy have some news regarding the case ....

HeliHub.com Marenco Swisshelicopter appoints new CEO as founder leaves (http://helihub.com/2016/12/06/marenco-swisshelicopter-appoints-new-ceo-as-founder-leaves/)

[HeliHenri]

Things seem to going well for Marenco :ok:


Marenco Swisshelicopter Eyes SH09 Certification, Production | Business Aviation News: Aviation International News (http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2017-06-21/marenco-swisshelicopter-eyes-sh09-certification-production)


Time to retire for 350/130/407/119 ?

[gmrwiz]

HH don't anticipate the future. The certification of a new product is a very challenging business.
Wait and see.

[atakacs]

And even after certification it will be all about how it performs in the real world and the quality of support.

That being said hat's off to whoever is financing this venture! Very courageous!

[Nubian]

Time to retire for 350/130/407/119 ?

Don't hold your breath...

[HeliHenri]

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The visibility from the cockpit is :eek::eek::eek:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqHuYbfxRr4

[atakacs]

Very nicely done! Really looking forward to fly it 😎

[9Aplus]

Nice :)
Any background news regarding new rotor hub assembly?

[gg17]

Lots of activity for Marenco at HAI, with one operator putting down an order for 12 machines.

Rebranded as 'Kopter' earlier this year - they are aiming to deliver the first ships in 2019. Performance said to be excellent, with ~25,000ft ceiling, and lots of unlimited life components.

Still has a long way to go before production/certification, but has potential.

[KiwiNedNZ]

Helitrans in Norway ordered 12 confirmed and think options on 6. Paradise Helicopters in Hawaii ordered 4 and Elling Halvorson I think 4 for their Rainier Helilift business. Safomar in South Africa also ordered two.

[Evil Twin]

I think I actually much preferred the name Marenco, Kopter feels like a name for the 12 year olds to me.

[HeliHenri]

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First flight of the third prototype HB-ZXC.
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https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/480x320/hb_zxc03_65c991730105e2f906eaafeef961c814497febc6.jpg

[Kulwin Park]

I think I actually much preferred the name Marenco, Kopter feels like a name for the 12 year olds to me.

I AGREE !!!! Even Bell took their Helicopter word away from their new products and business name. Everything is becoming a 'Vertical Flight' world, so as to allow for machines to be developed by them that don't fit in the 'helicopter' designation.
Kopter just seems hard to say in a sentence if you are an average punter. Ummmm "I'm just going for a fly in the Kopter Helicopter!" ...........someone will think you've said it twice

[heliduck]

http://helihub.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/141002-sh09-ff2.jpg
Looking at this photo I hope they’ll have a storage space for the ladder in order to refuel it!!

[MitchStick]

Looking at this photo I hope they’ll have a storage space for the ladder in order to refuel it!!

Or you can use the skid steps like many other helicopters

[9Aplus]

https://www.verticalmag.com/press-releases/sh09-latest-prototype-begins-flight-trials/

The next phase of its helicopter development and certification program with its latest SH09 prototype number 3 (P3)
Fingers crossed...

[Nige321]

Looking at this photo I hope they’ll have a storage space for the ladder in order to refuel it!!

The filler cap appears to be lower down on the 3rd prototype...

[HeliHenri]

Fingers crossed...

Hello 9Aplus,
Given the material and human resources involved in the project, crossing your fingers is not realy necessary ! :;)
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[9Aplus]

@HH
Well,
not to many people really expecting SH09 certification ;)
I am glad that you are on + side of the story....

[Nige321]

@HH
Well,
not to many people really expecting SH09 certification ;)
I am glad that you are on + side of the story....

Why??????????

[9Aplus]

No clue... I am on + side too,
expecting first certified SH09 to fly in 2020.
:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDzhgvPXC5o&fbclid=IwAR2Ev_aNj9FwEsu8RgHmrljIqoXk6Mce3f-n3RNSjXvtn9tdAfwaodyPSUk

[HeliHenri]

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SH09 on the way :ok: : Kopter Freezes SH09 Design http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2019-12-10/kopter-freezes-sh09-design
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[9Aplus]

And 4 years after, the certification is still just a dream... or nightmare for optimistic side of audience ;)

[HeliHenri]

Hello 9Aplus 🙂

things are still moving !
The Prototype number 4 has just received an Arriel 2K (Leonardo has decided to go Safran) and the final Prototype number 5 should fly this year.
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[9Aplus]

If you ask me...
to little, to late.
An realist can predict the success level of ex PZL Swidnik SW4 ;)

[9Aplus]

Well,
the news =>

https://www.leonardo.com/en/press-release-detail/-/detail/08-03-2023-leonardo-announces-aw09-single-engine-helicopter-contracts-and-partnership-at-heli-expo-2023-as-the-programme-makes-further-progress

PS bets, anyone?

[noooby]

Well,
the news =>

https://www.leonardo.com/en/press-release-detail/-/detail/08-03-2023-leonardo-announces-aw09-single-engine-helicopter-contracts-and-partnership-at-heli-expo-2023-as-the-programme-makes-further-progress

PS bets, anyone?


What are you betting on?

[9Aplus]

On the story similar to AW609 ;)

[Self loading bear]

How many of these 50 pre-sales were sold by Marenco
?

[noooby]

On the story similar to AW609 ;)

609 is a totally different story and if the regulations for it were already sorted out by FAA, it would be certified. Can't certify an aircraft that doesn't have regulations written for it yet!

09 seems to be getting there. People don't like them leaving the HTS900 for the Arriel but the 900 is having many problems. Partiuclarly with spares and support.

SW04 was different again. Mods to FAA certify it were all done on STC, an STC not owned by Leonardo. It all got out of control so Leo pulled the plug on the whole project. It really was butt ugly. I'm glad it never made it through.

[helispotter]

I just came across a brochure one of my colleagues passed on to me some years back, perhaps after returning from the Avalon airshow. Thought I would scan it and post here realising that more current info is probably provided on the Kopter website than this "Preliminary Technical Data".

It was also interesting to note that for HB-ZXB on cover of brochure, the horizontal stabiliser hangs below the tail boom, just as on Bell 505 and now also R44 and R66. But on side profile on reverse of brochure, the stabiliser is more integrated with the tail boom. I can see that is also the case on HB-ZXC, their third prototype. I wonder if that change in stabiliser attachment arrangement was always planned?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/620x823/kopter_sh09_spec_sheet_side_1_of_2_compressed_abe58b4aac44c1 334d2a764c48400b908d506fad.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/618x824/kopter_sh09_spec_sheet_side_2_of_2_compressed_8de70eff0b33a4 51cb6c67ac4b31fb43759358fd.jpg