Merged: A330 Rejected Takeoff Perth

[Ultergra]

Something AJ should be reading.

Quick action stops Perth airport crash

"Only quick thinking and the skill of Qantas pilots averted what may have been a serious accident at Perth Airport on Wednesday when an Airbus A330 with 180 passengers aboard veered to the left just as it was about to lift off.

A problem with the rudder is believed to have been the cause of the aborted take-off of the two-year old A330-203. The A330 was doing 180km/h, just seconds from reaching its 220km/h take-off speed on Runway Three when it veered to the left, forcing the crew to abort the take-off and apply maximum braking."

Quick action stops Perth airport crash - The West Australian (http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/8903275/quick-action-stops-perth-airport-crash/)

Jetstar has a window catch fire from Japan, QF pilots on board, the infamous A380 incident, the A330 death dive, these 'cultural polluters' should be getting far more respect than QF management are giving them.

[Mr. Hat]

Senators, has the penny dropped yet?

[Normasars]

Ultergra,

Kudos to the crews involved with these incidents.

But, please don't for one minute think that ONLY QF drivers were capable of these recoveries. Any airline with a robust CAR 217 operation would have had the same outcomes.

This domain is NOT limited to QF.

[Mr. Hat]

This is true but it just so happens that QF crew have demonstrated over the last six months that people up the front are the difference between life and death when things go wrong.

Wasn't long ago that the CEO of Ryanair called for EFFOs to be replaced with flight attendants. He's a moron we all know that but its his attitude that is starting to infiltrate our industry at all levels.

[Skynews]

Any airline with a robust CAR 217 operation would have had the same outcomes.
So true, and there in lies the problem, training and checking standards in general could hardly be considered robust in any company I have worked for.

QF and possibly Virgin (don't have first hand knowledge) accepted

[neville_nobody]

But, please don't for one minute think that ONLY QF drivers were capable of these recoveries. Any airline with a robust CAR 217 operation would have had the same outcomes. This domain is NOT limited to QF.

Have a look at all the incidents that QF have had over the past 5 years and think about that statment. Don't forget that there was also a fatal accident in Europe in a 737 which was a non eventful landing when QF pilots had the same problem.

I'm not suggest that only QF drivers could have handled them however the QF training and experience of the pilots is worth noting. As mentioned in the first post it is more about respect than anything else.

[4Greens]

Whatever the rights or wrongs of what is happening in the Australian industry, Qantas pilots can hold their heads up high.

[AudiRS6]

Anyone have more info on this incident that occurred on Wednesday?

[OhForSure]

It's not that others couldn't or can't do it... it's just that Qantas boys and girls have been performing under the spotlight consistantly over the last few years. With many more incidents than we'd like to see, they've all been handled very professionally. Well done guys.:ok:

[fender]

Ohh good grief,
Captain FIG JAMs everywhere.
It's those sorts of statements that make me cringe.

[getsmart]

Uncommanded high value rudder deflection at cruise speed would most likely result in a rudder and/or vertical stabiliser separation........AF447 and perhaps Afriqiyah771 on short finals into Tripoli (it cartwheeled)......is fly-by-wire failsafe ?

[AnQrKa]

"I'm not suggest that only QF drivers could have handled them however the QF training and experience of the pilots is worth noting"

Ok, noted. If you are not suggesting this then why make such a statement.

Could we also note the training and experience of KA/CX/BA/UA/LH etc crew who have probably had similar RA failures in their extensive histories and NOT CRASHED just like QF.

[blueloo]

Surprised this thread hasnt been closed like the last one on it.......