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Blackshift
7th May 2001, 01:50
Here goes...

Passed CAA ATPL writtens Oct '99 (first partial Nov '98).

Contacted CAA to check the validity period for issue of JAR CPL under transitional arrangements (having missed the BCPL issue deadline in June '00) and IR : 3 years from first partial for CPL and 5 years for IR - no problem thought I.

Gained JAR CPL last month, with two and a half years remaining to gain IR. Decided to cocentrate on FI rating in order to improve my flying skills and gain further experience in the meantime.

Learned through pprune last week of new CAA exam validity period regulations : 3 years from date of final pass of commercial exams to gain CPL and IR. Checked with CAA who confirmed this to be the new acceptance period applying to holders of JAR licences.

So now I find myself with less than one an a half years to gain an IR, having commenced £6k's worth of Instructor training confident that I had another two and a half to scrape up the readies and get myself through the big one in time to avoid being relegated to JAR groundschool.

I might still be able to make it, but the added pressure in terms of time and money certainly stack the odds against me.

There will be those who had perhaps a year or so left under the old regs who's window of opportunity has just vanished completely.
Would they have a case against the CAA? Do I?

What, if anything, can I do about it?

Any advice from those who know about these things would be greatly appreciated.

rolling circle
7th May 2001, 03:32
You have absolutely no come-back on the CAA since it was not they who 'moved the goalposts'.

By gaining a JAA licence you became subject to the provisions of JAR-FCL 1. The requirement to gain issue of the IR within 36 months has always been in JAR-FCL 1, it has, however, recently changed from being 36 months from the first pass or partial pass to 36 months from final pass and so the JAA could claim that they have actually eased the conditions. Since the requirement has always applied to JAA licences I don't see that you have any comeback there since the only 'movement of the goalposts' has been in your favour.

Had you gained a UK licence rather than a JAA one, the original time periods you quote would have applied.

Cheer up, this is what being in europe is all about - being ripped off by bueaucrats.

Blackshift
7th May 2001, 03:40
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Blackshift
7th May 2001, 03:46
Clutching at straws I know, but would there be any way of utilising my CAA PPL to circumvent this problem in some way?