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ATC Watcher
15th Dec 2010, 07:58
LH2 asked : Could you please give a brief description of that single-man operation stuff for non-ATC types like me? Perhaps on a separate thread to avoid cluttering this one up even more.

In a nutshell :
In almost all large ATC centers in Europe there are 2 equally qualified controllers sitting on a busy position ( mainly a radar sector) This is following the ICAO 4 yes principle and is based on years of data, to ensure maximum safety and high capacities ( i.e number of aircraft that can be safely handled though your sector )

Single man operations concept is basically having a single controller in a working position, under certain conditions.

Those conditions are variable : there can be traffic level related ( e.g at night, when the predicted traffic fall below a certain figure ( say 10 a/c an hour) you can remove the second person and one controller is alone, or you have it sector related ( that particular sector will be open from say, 15:00 to 17:00 ) with only one controller per position . You can put a procedure in place where the Supervisor (if he hold a valid licence ) can act as the second man in case traffic raise above what was predicted.

But it can also be structural : you replace the second controller by an Assistant , someone who is not a controller, but that can help with telephone calls, etc..)
This last option is done in places where you have a serious lack of staff and not so complex traffic ( good example is Norway, who does this ) .

This last option is very cheap, as the Assistant is someone off the street that can be trained in a few months , has no licence and does not bear any direct responsibility with regard to traffic, as he/she works under the full responsibility of the controller.

That option is looked with great interest by everyone as it will allow ANSPs to reduce overninght their required ATCOs numbers and be much cheaper on the process , ( less training times , less salaries for the Assistants )
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Norway I beleive started this concept some 15 years ago. It was followed by many centres , especially during Night ops, while some others, like Zurich used it even during the day , until Ueberlingen came . That stoped it .

Now Ueberlingen is 8,5 years ago ( times flyies isn't it ) and AENA has said would love to re-install the concept with better rules . They call it " monosectores " If they get they way, the concept will definitively be revived elsewhere.

Blockla
15th Dec 2010, 11:12
And then there are some other ANSPs who only do single person ops (totally ignoring the 4 eyes concept); no planners no assistants... One controller to talk to aircraft and make all the phone calls etc.

But somewhere they have a safety case with all the right boxes ticked to justify it.

The Euronator
15th Dec 2010, 11:46
Blockla,

And don't forget an STCA that only goes off when you infringe 5nm , so you can hand your licence in at the door on the way out:ugh:

anotherthing
15th Dec 2010, 12:37
Fairly busy, slightly complex. Once controller per position is standard manning, with loose ATSA support (the ATSA will be covering several positions and has his/her back to the radar screens, and is anything from 4 to 20 feet away).

If it gets busy, coordinator is available, usually on the busy sectors one coordinator for 4 radar positions.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
15th Dec 2010, 12:47
...and the LTMA approach sectors have single-controller operation at most positions. I'm sure this applies to many units around the UK too.

anotherthing
15th Dec 2010, 12:53
Bren,

I was including the LTMA app guys... one room, one workforce (for now), though the ATSA who services the Thames guys is more like 40 feet away and will be looking after Thames, EGLL, EGKK, EGSS and EGGW ... :ok:

BrATCO
15th Dec 2010, 13:33
I usually don't trust much the STCA to save my day... not to mention TCAS-RA which is nothing more than an airbag : last and only remaining slice of cheese.

I've sometimes (not often, I admit) asked for a third qualified controller. Just and only to check I've seen everything. Because six eyes may sometimes do better than four...
Controllers anticipate when machines only react.

ATC Watcher
15th Dec 2010, 14:10
Controllers anticipate when machines only react.

BrATCO : one of most intelligent remarks in this Forum in a long time ! :ok:

wlatc
15th Dec 2010, 15:13
I used to work in Chicago ARTCC where we had a position normally staffed by:
Radar Controller
Coordinator/Supervisor
Tracker
"D" Side
Assistant

It could get crowded around the scope!

In Denver ARTCC right after the PATCO strike we worked mostly one-person sectors. One day I developed laryngitis and lost my voice. Since there were no controllers to take over the sector, I slid over and we plugged in a new assistant controller, a guy with no experience at all. I wrote clearances on a scratch pad and the kid transmitted them to the planes.

Blockla
16th Dec 2010, 09:58
I wrote clearances on a scratch pad and the kid transmitted them to the planes. Makes perfect sense; alas now it would get you a permanent vacation from your licence I'd suspect...

novation
16th Dec 2010, 10:32
Single manning is standard practice at Prestwick centre at all times of day.

kontrolor
16th Dec 2010, 10:35
@Euronator - you have some strange settings for SN then....STCA is not supposed to trigger the alarm when separation is already lost.

BrATCO
16th Dec 2010, 10:59
Kontrolor,
yes and no : STCA stops either when the conflict is over OR when the machine decides it's too late anyway. That means when the distance between conflicting traffics is already below the minima.

Blockla and Wlatc,
I don't know for USA, but I think now in Europe, as I understand European Control License, the controller must say he's unable to control and the supervisor must find a plan B (find another controller, or implement flow management procedures, or another configuration, or ...).

BrATCO
16th Dec 2010, 12:10
Some years back, I was alone on duty, working APP+TWR, early in the morning when I felt a personal physical emergency. Still an hour to go before colleagues arrive.
I changed my control position, turned the radio level up and as the mike's wire was still a bit too short to reach the outside, I eased myself through the alleyway's door.

Can't say if there was someone 30 m below. Don't know if pilots knew about my situation.

I imagine I was not the first nor the last.
This kind of things can happen when there's only one crew on board.

chevvron
16th Dec 2010, 13:36
On a less humourous note, some years ago there was an ATCO in a tower 'somewhere in southern England' on his own manning TWR/APP after midnight. No traffic expected immediately so he decided to go downstairs for (I think) a cup of coffee. He slipped on the stairs and broke his leg and was only found some time later when an arriving aircraft, unable to make 2-way contact, called the ATCC who called the airport duty officer.

60068
16th Dec 2010, 14:17
took us 15 mins to contact with LEI at 1'000ft could not see asked as to if the Lights were on he said I forget!!!! A case of single man ops i think :)

BrATCO
16th Dec 2010, 15:50
60068,

Wise beancounters call this "cost-effectiveness".
The controller works and takes a break at the same time (hence 15 minutes late).
Doesn't turn the lights on until you request.
This way, electricity bill will be cheaper, thus incomes will be higher. Next year, overfly taxes will be lower or shareholders will be wealthier.

In the end, controller says "my mistake" because that's his duty to take the responsability...

I'm joking, of course :p... (,am I not ?:suspect:)

Indeed, obvious single-controller-on-duty symptom.

warsteiner888
16th Dec 2010, 17:42
My airport carry our single man ops to save cash. They also insist on turning lights off to save cash etc. The management are non ATC and their agenda is totally different to the safety culture of ATC. They are more than happy for controllers to stay on consol for 4 hours without another controller in the tower.

As a result whenever managment finish early, I turn the lights and heating up as much as poss to push their budgets. Very sad but I feel better for it.

The Euronator
16th Dec 2010, 18:55
Kontrolor

As BrATCO states

yes and no : STCA stops either when the conflict is over OR when the machine decides it's too late anyway. That means when the distance between conflicting traffics is already below the minima.

Having worked in a centre that does the above, it is a dangerous precedent to start trying to separate when there is potential that the TCAS is already going off in the cockpit. I currently work in a completely different centre which gives at least a 2 min warning and is based on radar derived information with at least 9 filters to give the most accurate assessment. This gives the controllers (2) more than enough time to react to alleviate the potential conflict.


BrATCO

I usually don't trust much the STCA to save my day... not to mention TCAS-RA which is nothing more than an airbag : last and only remaining slice of cheese.

I totally agree with your philosophy but the STCA can be an extremely useful extra safety buffer for an ATCO if it is developed to rectify the situation/oversight rather than a reporting device. More tools to help an ATCO especially when operating on a single sector, can only enhance safety. Its better than only 1 set of eyes.

I trust my ability, experience and training to rectify conflicts but it is nice to know that I have a system that will give me the ability to change my actions with plenty of notice. We are, as we all know,fallible and no-one is on their game 24/7 365 days a year and if people think they are, then they are in the wrong job (not aimed at BrATCO just a generalisation )

BrATCO
16th Dec 2010, 20:25
Euronator,
I don't feel aimed at all : I'm fallible and I never forget it.

I just meant that I don't want to rely ONLY on electronic devices to "correct" me afterwards when a colleague can stop me before I transmit a rotten clearance.

Exemple:

Potential single-manned sector RA sequence :

Controller gives rotten clearance.
Pilot reads back and starts climb. Controller listens to read-back while preparing next clearance.
When traffic leaves level (2 or 300 feet) and/or sufficient vertical speed, STCA triggers.
Controller sees the problem / analyses / provides "immediate" descent clearance
Pilot reads back and anounces "TCAS-descent"
Controller says "Roger", STCA stops.
Controller advises supervisor, looks around, would like someone to take the mike, but there's no-one.
Controller stays on frequency until next break, when he'll have to file papers and papers and papers. He'll have to throw up his breakfast, too. Next time he sleeps for real is in three months.
Shouldn't lose his job. Smallest concern right now.


Potential 2-manned sector RA sequence :

Controller transmits rotten clearance.
While pilot reads back, second controller says : "You sure ?"
Controller says "...(nothing)...", transmits immediate correction.
Pilot reads back correction and thinks about the way he will write that on PPRuNe this evening.
Controller says "Thank you" and goes to next conflict.
Controller will pay both coffees during break. Second controller will accept.

samotnik
16th Dec 2010, 21:36
BrATCO, you fool, it's such a cost ineffectiveness! In my case it's not about a second pair of eyes on-line - starting from January I won't have even a spare ATCo on his break while I'm on duty, because due to cost effectiveness, shift hours will be arranged in a way that for a couple of hours - not at night in low traffic, but in the middle of a day - there will be only one licensed ATCo at the whole tower. Management has downgraded the service because the airlines have had demanded! When will this cost-cutting madness end?

Don't Tell Him Pike
16th Dec 2010, 22:39
Single manning is standard practice at Prestwick centre at all times of day
Not all of it. There is a corner of the room where double manning of all sectors is mandatory from 0700-2200

Dan Dare
16th Dec 2010, 22:47
You aint experienced single man ops until you've had to do what you can on a hand-held while straining on the porcelain:eek:

ATC Watcher
17th Dec 2010, 06:17
Lighter note : still flying VFR around ( single pilot, single engine ) and I receive lots of GA aviation mags. One advert in the US caught my eye recently :" Lost your licence ?, become a "virtual co-pilot" etc." the trick is for single OPS operations , up to light twin jets certified for Single pilot ops , incl VLJs , to be able to phone a number 24/7 , where you'll get a pilot that was cerified on type to act as help and co-pilot during times of difficulties,weather, , failures,even emergencies etc...

I wonder how long it will take for an ATM company to propose the same ?:
On the other hand with today's technology ( ADS-B, Download FMS data, and CPDLC ), we could all probably work from home with a good PC and a fast Internet connection.

I should be writing science fictions novels...:hmm:

samotnik
17th Dec 2010, 07:10
Watcher, go for it, working at home is popular nowadays, why not full radar control? Imagine - you just get up from your bed, make yourself a coffee, turn on your PC, put on skype headset and... ;) And all of this while living in some paradise location.

le Pingouin
17th Dec 2010, 08:16
turn on your PC, put on skype headset and....I'm sorry Daddy can't come to the phone right now :}

ATC Watcher
17th Dec 2010, 08:49
Coral :Every ATC position in Australia = 1 person (or less!)
Can you define " less " ?

Blockla
17th Dec 2010, 09:05
Can you define " less " ?TIBA, there was a lot of it a couple of years back, it's still happening in patches...

BrATCO
17th Dec 2010, 09:29
Coral and Blockla,
By "combined", do you mean 1 controller for 2 positions (the Überlingen way) or several sectors for 1 position (which I call "collapsed" sectors, or "grouped" sectors in Frenglish) in regard of the traffic ?

Just to be sure, I read "Positions" :eek:

BrATCO
17th Dec 2010, 12:38
Wow ! :ooh:

I thought... Wow !

I can't find the words...

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
17th Dec 2010, 15:45
There is a system in the UK (and probably elsewhere) called bandboxing where one controller can work several sectors during quiet periods.. The frequencies remain the same but by clever switching, all aircraft can hear each other and the controller. Dashed clever, what?

LH2
17th Dec 2010, 16:10
LH2 asked :
[....]
In a nutshell :

ATCW &al.,

many thanks for taking the time to explain. I have enjoyed the insight into this aspect of your job--I never realised at times you could be completely on your own down there! :ooh:

Sincere respect to you, lads! :ok:

The Euronator
17th Dec 2010, 17:27
Heathrow Director

There is a system in the UK (and probably elsewhere) called bandboxing where one controller can work several sectors during quiet periods..

I know exactly what you mean but if I can put it in your world. Lets say the North Sea (Sect 10/11 etc) combined with Scottish or Clacton Sectors combined with TC due to staff shortages and you man this with 1 person. I know its not the same amount of traffic but you get the gist.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
17th Dec 2010, 17:52
No, you obviously need a controller validated on the sectors you are combining and obviously one man is not validated for all the sectors you mention. There are controllers who are valid for airfield approach sectors and TMA sectors but they won't do them in a bandboxed situation. For example, TMA SW and SE might be bandboxed and the Heathrow North and South sectors. I cannot speak for en-route as I have no experience there.

1985
18th Dec 2010, 22:45
I do CLN and NOR bandboxed. But only on night shifts and when its VERY quiet maybe on a sat pm. We would never leave a sector without any ATCO in charge. And also we would never bandbox with another sector that i'm not valid for.

ATC Watcher
19th Dec 2010, 07:21
nobody for the position - empty chair with planes blindly flying across the radar screen.

I tought TIBA procedures were long gone in (normally) controlled airspace in Australia, At least this is what Greg Russell claims.

Maybe we should open another thread with "zero" man operations . Much more cost effective from an ANSP point of view !

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
19th Dec 2010, 08:21
<<Maybe we should open another thread with "zero" man operations>>

Don't give the beancounters any clever ideas. It must have been 30 years ago that a smart young bloke sat next to me at Heathrow and explained that the CAA (or was it Board of Trade? Can't recall) had retained him to replace ATCOs with computery. I told him he would be better off telling us how to work the EG list!

ATC Watcher
19th Dec 2010, 08:43
:ok: and the one that will be able to automate the EG list is not yet born I'd say !.:E

novation
19th Dec 2010, 11:50
Heathrow Director- "The frequencies remain the same but by clever switching, all aircraft can hear each other and the controller. Dashed clever, what?"

You must be speaking of that amazing contraption they call cross-coupling. Doesn't exist at Scottish where it's normal ops to have 4 or 5 sectors bandboxed at 19:00 with 1 controller operating them, using at least 3 frequencies whilst monitoring at least 2 others. Now thats single manning.

Lon More
19th Dec 2010, 13:04
ATC Watcher Just before I left there were ideas being floated to collapse all the sector groups to one at night as a cost cutting measure.
AS it would mean everybody having to validate on every position in the centre it didn't get off the ground, especially as no incentive to do so was being offered. Any truth in the rumour that it's being dragged up again?

ATC Watcher
19th Dec 2010, 14:11
Hi Lon More : no that idea has been put on ice for the moment. Not dead but priorities have changed in the meantime towards a "centralized supervision position". Basically managing the ops room by a "centre Supervisor " position . (I always said we would be back :E ) should start in 2011. .