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IO540
8th Dec 2010, 20:45
interesting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXUeO3auRZg)...

Rod1
8th Dec 2010, 22:25
:D:D:D:D

Rod1

IO540
9th Dec 2010, 08:45
The Approved Data is here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestibulo-ocular_reflex)

Must be good enough for an EASA STC...

forget
9th Dec 2010, 08:50
That is fascinating! There has to be use for this!

dirkdj
9th Dec 2010, 09:51
I would put the chicken in a cage and put a white hat on her head. Then put the cage in the panel and have a nice backup gyro. Gives a whole new meaning to 'caging the gyro'.
Since it is proven that migrating birds have magnetic sensors in their beaks, this might be the next step: replace the chicken with a migrating bird and have a heading reference as well. got to be cheaper and more reliable than an INS and GPS combined.
Now if we could find a migrating parrot, that would really open up some possibilities..

IO540
9th Dec 2010, 10:12
It would not be hard to sense the chicken's head orientation (with a strap-on harness; hey this gives a whole new meaning to a "strap down gyro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system)") which is clearly steady in 3D space.

How about applying for an EASA STC, and see how far it goes before somebody realises?

Look how far the FCL proposals have gone and they are only marginally less nutty.

A parrot would be brilliant for reading back clearances. Probably illegal in the UK because one is not allowed to record ATC.

mrmum
9th Dec 2010, 11:00
IO
illegal in the UK because one is not allowed to record ATC

That's interesting, are you sure this is the case? It may well be, I don't know myself, could you please point me at a reference regarding this, ta. It could of course be one of those widely disregarded rules that no one bothers about, but there's plenty of recorded ATC here;
BREMONT - Mayday (http://www.bremont.com/mayday.php)
which is also on youtube and on PPRuNe in October, that's just one that springs to mind, I suspect I'd find plenty more if I looked.

dirkdj
9th Dec 2010, 16:02
We still have to find out if the chicken's head is fixed to a terrestrial or stellar reference before trying to use it for great circle navigation. If using the stellar reference we'll have to find a way to rotate the gyro birdcage 180° over a period of 12 hours.

madlandrover
9th Dec 2010, 18:53
Probably illegal in the UK because one is not allowed to record ATC.

Although you can get kit in the aircraft to record ATC :ok: - Garmin's G1000 (fully EASA certified for all its potential, and superb) will record the last few seconds of ATC chatter as a way of playing back clearances to make sure the readback is right. Great way of double checking if someone's read back a clearance without including their brain in the link!

Jan Olieslagers
9th Dec 2010, 19:02
The idea is OK, but chicken is no good. Check below for how to apply Canadian Teal in very low visibility:

DC-3 Pucker Gauge perTed Temer (http://centercomp.com/dc3/14511.html)

mrmum
9th Dec 2010, 19:08
Jan

That's brilliant, LMAO,:D:D:D:D

Jan Olieslagers
9th Dec 2010, 19:17
Can't be sure if it is for real, the question wasna that stupid to me. Seems to come from R/C fliers and those chaps do live in a world of their own. Where I was taught that the best flights are when the plane's axis is parallel to the ground (and can manage that fairly well, recently), RC'ers pride themselves on suspending their craft from the propellers - not sure which would first give way if I tried that, my guts or my stomach or the plane.
But I am willing to believe it was tried - many people tried many strange experiments in that strange era - and as you say, it is certainly brilliant writing!

mrmum
9th Dec 2010, 19:26
You really should go across and post it in the "Flying Instructors and Examiners" forum, in the "How do you teach a student to flare?" thread. See if anybody takes it seriously :E

Jan Olieslagers
9th Dec 2010, 19:37
Feel free to do so yourself, Mrmum, with my compliments - I am already spending (not to say "wasting") far too much time in this corner of "private flying".

mad_jock
9th Dec 2010, 19:50
I dealt with that one.

Fly it level take the power off wiggle the rudder pedals try not to land and say "get down you whore" but my method which has worked for years doesn't seem to be en-vogue.

And I can tell you now that chicken is way more stable than the heap of ****e i have to put up with at work.