Concorde Total Hours

[Bystander]

Having just discovered the G-INFO CAA Registration Database - - - yes, I know I should get out more! - - I noticed that the results of a "Concorde" search brought up the following apparent oddity. When you look at the original date of registration and compare the total hours to date they look like this:-

Reg Reg Date Hours to Date

G-BOAA April 3, 1974 31551
G-BOAB April 3, 1974 35227
G-BOAC April 3, 1974 35270
G-BOAD May 9, 1975 35548
G-BOAE May 9, 1975 37446
G-BOAF June 12, 1980 44334
G-BOAG February 9, 1981 27334

Can anyone tell me why there is such a huge difference, particularly between Fox and Golf?

[expedite_climb]

Seems interesting that (with the exception of Golf), hours are higher on the newer a/c.

[SFly]

What is this database? Could you tell me where to find it please?

Thanks,
SFly

[diplomat]

G-BOAG spent a huge amount of time stuck on the ground as a result of severe corrosion throughout one of its hydraulic systems. This was caused by contaminated skydrol getting into the system during a major check, and i believe nearly resulted in the aircraft being permanently withdrawn from service.

[piloteddy]

SFly,

Here's a link to the site. You can type in the reg of any British registered aircraft and it will tell you things like the owner, how many hours its flown, date of manufacture etc etc.

http://www.srg.caa.co.uk/aircraftregister/ginfo_dbsearch.asp

Hope that helps,

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PilotEddy



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[Airborne Hamster]

mmm DG ?

[Bellerophon]

Bystander

The CAA hours for Concorde, as shown on the G-INFO website, are quite wrong, and I have not the faintest idea why. The actual hours are broadly as follows:

A/C........Reg.........BA Del........Hours.......CAA

206.....G-BOAA...14/01/76.....22,700.....31,551 ?
208.....G-BOAB...30/09/76.....22,300.....35,227 ?
204.....G-BOAC...13/02/76.....21,500.....35,270 ?
210.....G-BOAD...06/12/76.....22,300.....35,548 ?
212.....G-BOAE...20/07/77.....22,400.....37,446 ?
216.....G-BOAF...09/06/80.....17,300.....44,334 ?
214.....G-BOAG...06/02/80.....15,000.....27,334 ?

AF and AG were delivered some 3 to 4 years after the other aircraft, and AG did indeed spend quite some time in the hangar having contaminated hydraulic systems rectified.

G-BOAF is the lead aircraft in the return to service program, and will be the first BA Concorde to fly again.

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[diplomat]

The CAA hours are quite correct (ish)

[Bystander]

Bellerophon
Thanks for the corrected detail. It kind of makes you wonder where the CAA figures came from in the first place??
Glad for the extra detail re: return to service etc., etc.
We watch with bated breath.

The time is long overdue for the aircraft to be re-proven.

[gordonroxburgh]

I would agree with Bellerophon.

The latest accurate figures I have are of Sept 99.(roughly 1 year out from current hours.)

204 G-BOAC 21,959
206 G-BOAA 21,900
208 G-BOAB 21,236
210 G-BOAD 21,606
212 G-BOAE 21,737
214 G-BOAG 14,385
216 G-BOAF 16,517
Does anyone know where Exact figures can be obtained from?

for thouse interested the Air France Hours at Oct 98 are :

203 F-BTSC 11,413 (11989 at crash date)
205 F-BVFA 16,337
207 F-BVFB 12,850
209 F-BVFC 12,500
211 F-BVFD 5,821 (Out of Service)
213 F-BTSD 11,788
215 F-BVFF 11,442

An DG! (202 : G-BBDG) was retired with 803 hrs if this is what the "DG" was asking

The G-Info site says that the figures are the total hours flown by the individual aircraft as at 31st December prior to the issue of the last Certificate of Airworthiness. there are less that the figures above, but when was the latest CofA issued?

Don't know where the figures in the 30k's are from as when I check I get high teens and early 20's the only one that seems out could be G-BOAA, but it could have had a short break.

FYI

when 214 had its hydraulic probme is was still registered as G-BFKW and as such flew for BA in the "British" livery under this reg for a few months before its problems. It was fixed and then flew again before being grounded again and used for spares until 1984/5 when more parts were available from the BA aquisition of 202 : G-BBDG. G-BOAG was the first aircraft in the landor livery.

Gordon

[Bellerophon]

gordonroxburgh

Yes, I know where the exact figures can be obtained from, and, oddly enough, it's the source that I used to obtain mine. :)

I quoted the hours only to the nearest hundred as that seemed accurate enough for the point I was making!

For what it's worth, on the date you mention, your figures appear about right, with the exception of G-BOAC, which you quote as having 21,959 hrs in Sept 99.

As at 28 Apr 01, G-BOAC has done 21,531 hrs with 7,511 landings.

[gordonroxburgh]

Bellerophon

Cool thanx for that

My Figures came form Brian Trubshaws book, but looking back at another older source it does seem wrong that G-BOAC was the lead aircraft. Yes it was used before G-BOAA for route tests but was much later into service. (My FEB 98 figs show AA ahead of AC by around 1000 hrs)

If possible it would be great to get a really good up to date set of stats (Eg Hrs, Supersonic cyles and landings etc..) that I can put on www.concordesst.com (http://www.concordesst.com) for everyone to read.

It you have this info could you post it here or email it to me at the address at the bottom of www.concordesst.com (http://www.concordesst.com)

Gordon