View Full Version : notifying atc of "security situation"
bigjames
20th Nov 2010, 04:28
last night around midnight i heard one of the american freight outfits contacting hk radar with their position and flight level and then added something like "security situation normal." the hk atco was confused and asked him to say again, to which he replied "we were advised by the chinese to say security situation when we contact you." the atco ended up ignoring the remark and gave him his vector etc as usual.
does anyone know anything about this?
boocs
20th Nov 2010, 05:40
When flying into Shanghai recently during Expo, their ATC always ask "confirm security situation normal?" to which everyone replied affirm/yes. (Wonder what they would do if we said no?) From memory they asked this question going into Beijing during the Olympics as well.
As for HKG airspace, I don't believe there is any requirement to advise all is ok which would explain the confusion from HKG ATC.
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HKG to PVG you can expect an atc request regarding your security situation.
It's in the NOTAMs, they probably figured HK is China which it is sort of but not really when it comes to ATC.
Near Miss
20th Nov 2010, 08:10
38Controller do you really think it a good idea to post such codes? :ugh:
act700
20th Nov 2010, 08:23
Near Miss,
do you really think that these super duper secret codes are only known to you and me??
Near Miss
20th Nov 2010, 09:18
ACT700, no of course not, but why go putting these sort of things on a public forum, especially under the title of "security situation". Why not post all the ACARS messages too? :hmm: Heaven forbid it should happen, but if I should ever need to use it, I hope to be able to discretely set said code. If everyone knows, then it makes it just that bit harder correct?
perfectenergy
20th Nov 2010, 10:15
One revealed the so-called code and one elaborated the meaning of the said code.
Both posts should disappear or be purged from this forum.
Bushfiva
20th Nov 2010, 10:36
Better give Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Squawk-Terrorist-Hijacks-Pacifica-Flight/dp/1590958446/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290252634&sr=8-1), Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transponder_(aviation)) and this slightly odd site (http://www.squawk7500.com/) a call while you're at it.
FR8R H8R
21st Nov 2010, 01:58
american freight outfits
There is your answer right there.
FO4EVA
21st Nov 2010, 10:08
Ever noticed the call to shanghai re security situation is on 128.75?
I don't know how, but that's what you can hear with HK.
Edit: woops, wrong. It's in the HK notams.
clear.right
22nd Nov 2010, 04:26
read your notams!
it was for the asian games in Guangzhou
bluesidedown
23rd Nov 2010, 15:53
i got that question from Guangzhou early this morning. caught me off guard, guess i should check the notams!