View Full Version : use of the phrase "heavy" in call sign/ICAO
BBFive
26th Oct 2010, 00:37
Understand it is not used in ICAO ops however does anyone have a reference source??
Need to show physical proof
Thanks
BBFive
Nightrider
26th Oct 2010, 07:16
Don't know your legislation but, for FAA it is: Appendix A of the FAAO 7110.65R "Air Traffic Control";
in the UK it is CAP413 chapter 1.8.5;
they all refer to ICAO DOC 4444......
Spitoon
26th Oct 2010, 08:27
ICAO Doc 4444...
4.9.2 Indication of heavy wake turbulence categor
For aircraft in the heavy wake turbulence category the word “Heavy” shall be included immediately after the aircraft call sign in the initial radiotelephony contact between such aircraft and ATS units.
whitelighter
26th Oct 2010, 11:43
And A380 should be announced as 'Super'
HEATHROW DIRECTOR
26th Oct 2010, 12:41
<<And A380 should be announced as 'Super'>>
Interesting. When was that introduced please?
Casper87
26th Oct 2010, 13:24
IIRC 2nd July 2009, Amendment 4, MATS Part 1.
The phraseology was changed from 'Vortex Wake/Wake Vortex' to 'Wake Turbulence' and the recomended distances were reduced for arrival spacing.
Oh and 'spacing' was changed to 'distance'
Casper
HEATHROW DIRECTOR
26th Oct 2010, 13:44
OK... many thanks.
BBFive
26th Oct 2010, 23:40
Great job guys
thanks
bbfive
duyentranvan
27th Oct 2010, 08:30
its also in jeppesen volume 1 gen