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M14P
13th May 2001, 00:25
Sadly there have been three fatal crashes killing five people today.

A Cessna crashed at Staughton in Leicestershire, a Sea Fury at Sywell and a Comanche on Osea Island, Essex.

See http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326956.stm

My sincere condolences to all concerned. A very sad day for light aviation indeed.

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AC-DC
14th May 2001, 00:58
Are there any more details?

Rallye Driver
14th May 2001, 12:40
The Comanche was from Stapleford. A former instructor of mine was on board. One of the best people I've ever flown with. A great loss - still can't believe it.

What a terrible day. Condolences to all families.

M14P
14th May 2001, 12:43
The Sea Fury belonged to Paul Morgan - a collector of historic aircraft and a thoroughly nice, professional chap. My condolences to the Morgan family.

The Comanche was a PA24 Single Comanche (an 'A' model) out of Stapleford.

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Four Holer Roller
14th May 2001, 15:43
Do you know the reg of the Single Com?

AC-DC
14th May 2001, 19:30
Rally driver
Do you know the a/c Reg. or the owner's name? I met some of them in the past.

M14P
What is a 'A' type? Never heard of it.

Rallye Driver
14th May 2001, 20:31
AC DC

Sorry, I don't know either. There are several 6-seater Pipers based at Stapleford, and the one whose registration I do know was still around yesterday.

RD

M14P
14th May 2001, 21:05
An 'A' model is the four seat variant - it's older and only has two windows on each side. There then followed the B and C models and also the T (for Turbo). Piper used to nominate all of their aircraft alphabetically but switched to numbers and names around the time of the Warrior.

I am unwilling to mention names because they have not been released in the press - at least as far as I know.

The aircraft was, however, group owned. Reg G-ARIE

AC-DC
14th May 2001, 23:18
M14P
Thanks. You see, I know some nice people over there who fly Comanche and I don't want to phone the family... just in case.

andymac
15th May 2001, 23:06
e-mail me re PA24 reg.
http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

150Driver
16th May 2001, 14:37
Anybody know any details about the Lincolnshire crash ?
Apparantely it was a Rand KR2 that went down, and I'm curious to know what happened, as I've just bought one!

Sensible
1st Jun 2001, 02:33
http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20010521X00976&key=1

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20010529X01019&key=1

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20010515X00937&key=1

Code Blue
2nd Jun 2001, 17:29
Sensible:

Couldn't get any of the links to work.

Regards

CB

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John Farley
2nd Jun 2001, 21:04
Just to say the links all worked for me five mins ago.

JF

Code Blue
3rd Jun 2001, 01:35
http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/redface.gif Not to labour the point but they work now for me too http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/redface.gif

On a related theme, how is it that these events are featured on a US site (NTSB)?
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Sensible
3rd Jun 2001, 21:38
Perhaps American nationals were involved or maybe the aircraft have recently been on the FAA register. I'm just guessing here.

Bouncy Landing
3rd Jun 2001, 21:56
I think the FAA were involved as each plane was US manufactured, and I believe it is normal for the "home" regulatory authority to have an interest in or be advised when there is an ocourance.

Changing the subject but sticking to topic, another awful weekend for UK aviation, I feel quite shaken just thinking about it.

Speedbird252
4th Jun 2001, 02:20
Couldnt agree more Bounce.

Bad crash yesterday, another tragic event today. Only got a few details of it so far, it being a WW2 P-39, single seater. Pilot is dead.

Saw the video and heard the reports, but we are Pilots, and we know better than to judge. Lets wait to hear what really happened.

May he and the Vampire Pilots rest in peace, and thoughts to the respective families.