BA 747-436's grounded??

[CreepMark]

shed some light if you can but I have just heard that as of about 2 hours ago, BA grounded LHR 747 400's......????

Maint issue / industrial action???

[CreepMark]

latest hot news is the defect is someting to do with vapour 'release' on outboard engines (no 1 and no 4)

[Final 3 Greens]

One just thundered past my office window at 1420 as it took off.

[Daifly]

Foot and Mouth disinfectant, Sodium Hypochlorite, causing corrosion. That's the message from one of BA's biggest clients. Certainly was mentioned by the CAA prior to the weekend.

[gas path]

Not 'vapour release' but vapour seals missing on the outboard pylons.
shaped sponge rubber. not allowable apparently!

[Captain Airclues]

Planeload of new seals on their way from Seattle (Specially chartered aircraft). Should be back to normal in a few days.

Airclues

[OzPax1]

What do these vapour seals do exactly?

OzPax1 http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/cool.gif

[PITbeast]

If you can give me a part number for the seals I'll see what I can find out.

Could be the seals between the bearings and the sump. Those are vapor seals. There may also be some vapor seals that would keep fuel vapors from contaminating the sump oil were there to be a leak somewhere (such as in the heat exchanger).

[This message has been edited by PITbeast (edited 30 May 2001).]

[jamiecurry]

something to do with vapour seals, parts on their way as there were lots of postecchs and a full poscrew on the SEAtac today bringing an ac in. the 236's not affected thouggh and some of the 436's cleared after tech inspections

[Fast Jet Wannabe]

So are they grounded or not?

[whats_it_doing_now?]

Nope, just ten of them.

[Le Pen]

Applies to -436 and -236 alike acording to maintrol.

love


LP

[No 1]

I heard it was lack of captains!!

BA to ban ground-rage Captains

BY BEN WEBSTER, TRANSPORT CORRESPONDENT

Captains who are rude to airport check-in staff face being banned from flights under new guidelines being introduced by British Airways.

The airline has rewritten its conditions of carriage to warn Captains that they will be prevented from boarding if they use “threatening, abusive or insulting words to ground staff or the crew”.

Airports will be extremely busy this weekend as more than 1.25 million people fly to foreign resorts, but the conditions of carriage are not being amended until next month.

Check-in staff say that they are facing increasing torrents of abuse from frustrated and aggressive Captains. They believe too much attention has been given to so-called air rage on board planes.

“We have been telling the airlines for some time that you can spot Captains who are likely to commit air rage from their behaviour at check-in,” said George Ryde, head of aviation at the Transport and General Workers Union.

“Full credit to BA that they are the first to make this change to prevent disruptive Captains from even getting on board.”

BA logged 232 cases of air rage on board aircraft last year but does not collect figures for incidents on the ground. Now it has become the first airline in Britain to amend the terms and conditions of its contract with the Captains to make clear that it will not tolerate rudeness.

“If we think someone is going to be a disruptive Captains the most obvious thing to do is to deny them boarding,” said Owen Highley, a BA solicitor who helped to draw up the new contract.

“But there has to be common sense. We are not going to ban from flight everybody who gets a bit stroppy.”

Mr Highley said the new conditions of carriage had been written in simple terms to ensure that Captains were not confused by corporate language. The contract clarifies what BA means by check-in deadlines in order to end the confusion which often leads to angry confrontations when passengers are told that their flight is closed.

It says: “The test is whether they have received their boarding pass for the flight, not whether they have joined the check-in queue.”

Captains barred from boarding would not be refunded their ticket price unless it was a fully flexible fare. They also face a life ban for the most serious incidents. A special BA committee meets to consider the length of any ban, with a year often considered enough.

[Kiltie]

Like yer style No. 1 !!

[qfcabin]

oh boy!!! someone just lit a fuse..over to you,captains!!

[TEMP0+TSRAGR]

Here is the official line :

We can confirm that six flights have been cancelled today to enable minor repairs to be carried out to a small number of British Airways
, 747-400 and 747 Classic aircraft.

Six Heathrow flights operated by the aircraft types have been cancelled.

A routine pre-departure check yesterday identified some minor wear and tear to a pylon seal located under the wing of a 747-400. The seals are regularly checked and changed as part of routine maintenance.

This morning, similar minor wear and tear was discovered on two further aircraft and this prompted closer inspection checks on the remaining fleet based at Heathrow and Gatwick.

A team of engineers is in the process of fixing the seals to ten aircraft. This process takes approximately two hours per aircraft. We expect this may lead to minor delays on some services from Heathrow.

The repairs only affect 747-400 and 747 Classic aircraft of which British Airways has 57 and 13 aircraft respectively.

Passengers should be advised to check-in as normal for their flights today.

[Penn Doff]

Was the defect spotted by an LAE or one of LHR's all singing, all dancing RMA Technicians. Must be the latter as I believe "Barely Airworthy" don't want LAE's on the aircraft anymore!!!!!

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[The Controlller]

All 747-436s checked and flying, 747-236s not involved

[The Controlller]

All BA 747-436s have been checked and are flying, 747-236s not involved

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