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007helicopter
17th Jul 2010, 18:52
Does anyone know what hours there will be restrictions for landing at Blackbushe next Saturday or Sunday?

Also other than a regular taxi if there is any planned shuttle to the show?

I will call them tomorrow but just curious now.

bern444
17th Jul 2010, 21:37
http://airspacesafety.com/guides/airshow/2010070002LegalChartsFarnborough.pdf

Talkdownman
18th Jul 2010, 00:11
Blackbushe Airport
23 June 2010
Bulletin No. 200
All Pilots / Operators
(GROUP OPERATORS PLEASE ENSURE ALL GROUP MEMBERS ARE MADE AWARE OF THIS BULLETIN)

FARNBOROUGH AIRSHOW ARRANGEMENTS 2010
This years show is from 19 - 25 July with the practice week being from 12 - 18 July. We will be subject to certain restrictions during the two weeks including departure day on 26 July.
NO SOLO Navigation flights will be permitted during the (RA) Temporary. This is the same airspace when there are Royal Flights in and out of Farnborough.
All circuit training during the flying displays will be curtailed. This may also be restricted at other times, i.e. during busy periods of arrivals into and out of Blackbushe. During the Red Arrows validation and displays the ATZ will be closed to all traffic.
All movements must be booked out by telephone and NOT by RT. In the interest of flight safety, if the tower staff are busy or there is no reply please leave a voicemail or get your operations department to book you out/in.
If a voicemail is left, please state this when calling on the radio. Failure to do so may lead to your movements being delayed.
Customs/Special Branch movements may be met during these periods so, if you intend to travel abroad we would appreciate GARS/Flight plans be handed in, faxed or emailed in plenty of time to allow them to be processed.
Full Airspace details are published in AIC:M033/2010 Dated 17 June 2010.
PRACTICE WEEK 12 - 18 July 2010
Temporary restricted airspace will be applied over the two week period. This will also cover the weekend of July 17th and 18th.
Provided that all practice flying is completed, the restrictions over the weekend may be cancelled.
Circuit traffic will be permitted in the mornings provided it is kept tight and not above 800’ QFE OR 1200’ QFE for twin/business aircraft. This height will also apply for deadside joins.
TRA from Farnborough will be established as follows (AREA1) Surface to base of controlled airspace.
AREA 1(TRA) Established from Farnborough 12NM Radius - Active as follows:
JULY 12-16 0800 - 1800Z
JULY 17 0800 - 1200Z
JULY 19 1230 - 1515Z
JULY 20-22 1315 - 1600Z
JULY 23 1230 - 1615Z
JULY 24-25 1130 - 1645Z
There will be no air activity permitted at Blackbushe while the Red Arrows TRA is in force. At all other times during the practice week (12-18 July) we are informed there may be further restrictions imposed on Blackbushe. These will be issued via NOTAM as and when required. Standard regulations applicable to flying in a TRA will continue to apply and operators are reminded that Farnborough ATZ is in force H24.
During the A380 display/validation we will be closed for around twenty minutes.
DISPLAY WEEK JULY 19 - 25 2010
TRA established 5NM on Farnborough from 0700-1900Z VARIOUS TIMES (AREA8). SFC- 1500’ALT.
TRA established 12NM on Farnborough 1300-1600Z JULY 18TH (AREA9). 1500’ ALT-boCAS.
JULY 19 0700-1230 AND 1515-1900Z
JULY 20-22 0700-1315 AND 1600-1900
JULY 23 0700-1230 AND 1615-1800
JULY 24-25 0700-1130 AND 1645-1800
JULY 26 0700-1600 (Departure Day)
Circuit flying/training will be curtailed after lunch when the flying displays are taking place and possibly in the mornings (depending on traffic). All other movements must call Farnborough Radar on 125.250 and be at a maximum altitude of 1500’ QNH until two way contact with Farnborough has been established. Rejoins should be made at normal circuit height from the deadside, unless co-ordinated with Farnborough. Aircraft should keep their downwind and base legs as tight as possible.
Departures will only be allowed to the west or north initially until given approval from Farnborough. Overhead departures will not be permitted i.e. expect south coast flights to go out via Basingstoke. Example for inbounds please make sure you call Farnborough radar in plenty of time BEFORE entering their TRA(T) and expect to join from the north/northwest for Deadside joins.
IFR departures during the two weeks must be in possession of ‘after departure’ instructions from Farnborough and requested by Blackbushe ATSU during operational hours.

USEFUL INFORMATION:

WWW.AIS.ORG.CO.UK - up to date information on NOTAMS / AICS

[email protected] - flight bookings for show week GARS etc
ATSU Blackbushe – Tel: 01252-873338 / fax: 01252-874444
Admin office – Tel: 01252-879449 / fax: 01252-743182
Please ensure that all bookings are sent to Blackbushe ATSU. The Admin Office is not manned at weekends and out of hours. This includes the general Blackbushe Airport email address ([email protected]).
SUP:021/2010 - Helicopter supplement for Helicopters going to and from Farnborough during the show week.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you in advance for your cooperation throughout this period.
Regards
J Eagles
Jamie Eagles
SENIOR FISO

chevvron
18th Jul 2010, 06:42
Farnborough Area 1 RA(T) is actually 8nm radius NOT 12nm!!!.

Edit to add:

Just noticed the statement 'this is the same airspace as used for a Royal Flight'
NO!!!
RA(T) and CAS(T) are two different things.
The CAS(T) around Farnborough is usually 10nm radius (sometimes 5nm radius) and is Class A airspace, meaning all flight is under IFR or Special VFR, whilst the RA(T) is Class G for flight rules (ie VFR permitted), but pilots must ask permission to transit and must obey ATC instructions (a bit like the rules for an ATZ). RA(T) Area 1 is as I stated originally, 8nm radius NOT 10nm, and AUS obviously deem it sufficient to protect Royal Flights as they are operating in and out of Farnborough without CAS(T) last week and this week.

chevvron
18th Jul 2010, 12:06
Entry 4 amended.

Talkdownman
18th Jul 2010, 22:41
All other movements must call Farnborough Radar on 125.250 and be at a maximum altitude of 1500’ QNH until two way contact with Farnborough has been established.
the RA(T) is Class G for flight rules (ie VFR permitted), but pilots must ask permission to transit and must obey ATC instructions

A maximum altitude of 1500’ QNH might not be compliant with Rule 5(3)(d), the 'land clear rule'.
Is it legal for Farnborough to restrict the altitude within the Class G RA(T) as a condition of its permission?

Over...

Talkdownman
20th Jul 2010, 18:39
Well, just how does Farnborough get away with restricting the altitude of VFR flights within Class G airspace? It has also been extremely difficult on occasions to get two-way with Farnborough before crossing the horizontal extent of the RA(T) anyway. If Farnborough can accept flight within the RA(T) 1500 QNH or below without communication then why not not just modify the vertical dimensions of that part of the RA(T)? Two-way communication would then not be necessary which would reduce Farnborough's workload as well as that of users. Now that chevvron has left maybe nats Farnborough could revise the dimensions of his RA(T)s to the benefit of all.....

007helicopter
20th Jul 2010, 20:39
Thanks for the replies, a wee bit more complex than I anticipated

bern444
20th Jul 2010, 21:03
The 787 was up doing a bit of practice today and Farnborough were routing VFR flights inside the London TMA at the Bagshot mast - generally regarded by us Fairoaks fliers as the ultimate sin in normal circumstances. Don't think it flew for long - I saw it for about one second from the Fairoaks circuit. Mind you, I was quite busy tootling round and round.

B

cessnapete
21st Jul 2010, 12:40
When the TRA is active the route OCK dct WOD is normally available from LARS not above 2000ft.