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crazyplane123
18th Jun 2010, 13:40
Usually when you hear news like these is because the company is in real trouble, any insiders that want to contribute to this info? Arrow has been this close to shut down many times because of financial troubles, it is going to be able to survive this time? your comments are welcome.


June 10, 2010
Ref. Arrow Cargo
Dear Customers, Partners, and Vendors;
We are aware of the many rumors in the marketplace with regards to Arrow's financial
difficulties. Many of these rumors are suggesting that Arrow will be ceasing operatˇons in the
coming days' These allegations are untrue. There are continued discussions with investors to
ensure we continue to serve our customers for many years to come, and those discussions are
expected to be completed in the coming weeks. We appreciate your loyalty and support, and
look forward to our continued working relationship.:eek:
Sincerely yours;
170

GlueBall
18th Jun 2010, 13:58
It's tough to compete when still operating old, converted, Diesel-10 trimotors. :{

D-LZ 126
18th Jun 2010, 14:40
It wasn't long ago that they were operating -50 and -60 series DC-8s, if memory serves. High fuel prices...they are a b*#ch.

muduckace
19th Jun 2010, 16:15
It's tough to compete when still operating old, converted, Diesel-10 trimotors


Not really when the competition in their geographical market are operating the same or similar, not to mention that these company's go out allmost allways at max gross weight are spend alot of time at fuel saving altitude.


Hey, I thought Arrow wes being baught by Centurion...

413X3
20th Jun 2010, 04:29
Don't they have a few 757s flying freight around as well as the old DC-10s?

muduckace
20th Jun 2010, 05:06
Ahh, the old century air cargo did this, like clockwork. CAC being a company that had 707"s and 757's, then DC10-40's as well operating out of miami is now UPS. minus everything but the 752's.

aerogent2008
24th Jun 2010, 14:18
Now, now Muduckace,
It's Centurion and they operate MD11's. The DC10-40's were returned some time ago. The DC10-30's have been dispersed into other holding airlines. CAC is mopping up the MIA-South American market, a thing that Arrow could have done, given the backing of the hedge fund that bought them, but as appears to be the norm throughout Arrow's history - Ego's won the day!!

JW411
24th Jun 2010, 14:35
So what the hell is new? I worked for Arrow when it was part of the George Batchelor empire some 25 years ago.

Arrow has died and been resurrected at least 5 times since then. No doubt somebody makes money every time it happens!

Wickerbill
24th Jun 2010, 18:29
Has Centurion actually bought Arrow (or indeed the assets of the company) from Matlin Patterson yet??

muduckace
24th Jun 2010, 19:05
The old man was a shrewd old bastard. I understand his daughter had been running his assets into the ground.

joebuckjr
24th Jun 2010, 20:09
No. Centurion pulled out of the deal figuring they could get what they want cheaper if they wait until they file Chapter 11 or 7.

747Comet
25th Jun 2010, 12:10
Centurion have the right idea, if they wait they can get a bargain.

What's the story with Arrows fleet now? Do they still have a World MD11 flying for them?

casablanca
27th Jun 2010, 00:02
The contract World had ended in April give or take a couple weeks.

GlueBall
28th Jun 2010, 10:51
"Ahh, the old century air cargo did this, like clockwork. CAC being a company that had 707"s and 757's, then DC10-40's as well operating out of miami is now UPS. minus everything but the 752's."

I think that you're talking about the late CAC, aka Challenge Air Cargo. :{

muduckace
28th Jun 2010, 16:21
Challenge is what I meant, thank you sir for the correction, and they did have a fine operation.

Need to Know Basis
30th Jun 2010, 16:18
I understand as from 29th Arrow are not accepting any shipments...I assume this means they have closed their doors. Can any one confirm Arrow has gone bust ?

Grndops
30th Jun 2010, 17:47
Press Release
For Immediate Release
ARROW AIR TO CEASE SCHEDULED SERVICE OPERATIONS
MIAMI – June 30, 2010 – Arrow Air Holdings Corp. (“Arrow”) today announced the Company
will cease scheduled service operations, effective immediately. Arrow issued the following
statement:
“Like many companies in our industry, Arrow Air has experienced significant operating
losses as a result of increasing operating costs and declining revenues. The decision to
wind down the Company’s schedule service operations was a difficult one. This decision
was not made lightly, and was a last resort after the Company exhaustively searched for
other options including financing or a sale of the business. Arrow is now focused on
helping to smooth the transition for the Company’s hard working, dedicated employees
as well as its customers, suppliers and other stakeholders.”
About Arrow Air Holdings Corp.
Arrow Air Holdings Corp., operating under the trade name Arrow Cargo, is a U.S. certificated
all cargo air carrier operating out of Miami International Airport.
Contact:
Andi Salas
212-355-4449

Po Boy
30th Jun 2010, 17:57
See company website, a press release was put out stating, it is winding down their Scheduled Service operations. Dated 30 June 2010

Lots of Arrow planes parked at MIA!

747Comet
30th Jun 2010, 19:00
Sad sad news, my heart goes out to all the staff who are now left in a very dark place.

Good Luck to all and it was great working with you.:ok:

Po Boy
30th Jun 2010, 19:47
The press release says "Scheduled Service Operations", does this mean they will now be just a charter or ACMI company?

crazyplane123
30th Jun 2010, 22:05
i had that feeling, when they come out trying to calm nerves, its because something big is coming down the pipes, well, here it is.........more unemployed crewmembers. Hey, but the economy is improving right?. dont drink the cool-aid soo quick!:eek:

JanetFlight
1st Jul 2010, 01:30
Very sad news indeed »»»

Arrow Air grounded after 57 years - South Florida Business Journal (http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2010/06/28/daily30.html)

My Best Hopes to the ones involved...

Daz801-82
6th Jul 2010, 21:11
We have got one of their 757 E-4`s currently in our shop, here at R-R DERBY, suppose that will be hanging around for a while until somebody pays for it. :confused:

Daz

crazyplane123
6th Jul 2010, 21:48
Arrow supposedly was going to be sold to someone, and that someone backed down last minute and Arrow had no choice but to file chap 11, you might end up with that 57's for a long time or until the court decides its fate. good luck.cp

Daz801-82
24th Jul 2010, 22:56
Any news on how Arrow are doing, we are currently re-building an E-4 for Arrow, I mentioned it to one of our customer business guys about Arrow`s demise, and he hadn`t heard that they had gone.

Daz

411A
24th Jul 2010, 23:53
we are currently re-building an E-4 for Arrow
Sincerely hope you have a large deposit...Arrow is done for, I suspect.

GlueBall
27th Jul 2010, 13:56
What's an "E-4" please...? :confused:

steamchicken
27th Jul 2010, 14:38
A Rolls-Royce Trent RB211-535E4, as used on the B757, manufactured and maintained in Derby?

GlueBall
27th Jul 2010, 16:00
Rolls not at Barnoldswick anymore. . . ?