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bookworm
7th Jun 2010, 08:15
In Annex 2, the instrument flight rules say:

5.3.2 Communications
An IFR flight operating outside controlled airspace but within or into areas, or along routes, designated by the appropriate ATS authority in accordance with 3.3.1.2 c) or d) shall maintain an air-ground voice communication watch on the appropriate communication channel and establish two-way communication, as necessary, with the air traffic services unit providing flight information service.

(3.3.1.2 refers to designated areas and routes in which a flight plan is required for the purposes of c) flight information, alerting and search and rescue services and d) military coordination)

There is no other mention of comms requirements for IFR in class G.

But in Annex 11, APPENDIX 4. ATS AIRSPACE CLASSES — SERVICES PROVIDED AND
FLIGHT REQUIREMENTS referred to by 2.6 Classification of airspace, shows the "Radio communication requirement" in Class G for IFR to be "Continuous two-way".

These seem inconsistent. What is the ICAO position on the requirement for aircraft to maintain an air-ground voice communication watch in class G outside these designated areas, and by what legal mechanism is the requirement placed on aircraft rather than ATS providers?

bookworm
11th Jun 2010, 17:59
No replies at all??

Which states require two-way comms for all IFR flights outside controlled airspace? (I know the UK doesn't.)

hvogt
11th Jun 2010, 19:52
bookworm,

The requirement for IFR flights to maintain two-way communication in airspace of all classes follows from ICAO Annex 11, 2.6.3 in conjunction with Appendix 4. Also, Annex 2, 3.6.5.1 requires continuous air-ground voice communication watch for all controlled flights and suggests two-way communication for them.

The way I see it, Annex 2, 5.3.2 and the parallel 4.9 are catchall provisions to cater for flights in uncontrolled airspace that has not been classified.

fuzzy6988
18th Jun 2010, 14:50
fyi - (possibly off topic)

Frequency 123.45 has now been designated for air-to-air comms use, to bring in line with the ICAO standard.

It would be interesting to see how and where in practice it'll be used.