Attn: CX Mgmt

[BillytheKid]

Delta Airlines will be hiring soon as will several other US carriers in the very near future. Do something now to stop fu*$ing your NA crews or face the strong likelihood of another 2007-like mass exodus. Your rostering is absolutely ridiculous and your pay for the freighter guys is laughable.

That is all.

[Frogman1484]

Most of the major Us legacy airlines have more pilots over the age of 60 than bellow the age of 45!!!
I think you can see what is going to happen in the future.

[4 driver]

The outlook for basings is very positive so I'm sure all will stay.....LOL

[flynhigh]

Can someone tell us how many pilots will be retiring from CX in next 5 to 10 years.....

[I'mbatman]

Cathay Retirements(based on age 65 retirement)
2011 5
2012 8
2013 11
2014 12
2015 20
2016 27
2017 20
2018 24
2019 44
2020 58
2021 53
2022 51
2023 58
2024 57
2025 58
2026 47
2027 70
2028 62
2029 73
2030 76
2031 81
2032 101
2033 129
2034 137
2035 132
2036 148
2037 125
2038 110
2039 104
2040 95
2041 75
2042 77
2043 77
2044 57
2045 46
2046 42
2047 28
2048 23
2049 8
2050 19
2051 6
2052 2
2053 3
2054 1

[Ex Cathedra]

Good, I should expect my upgrade in 2039 then, about 6 years before retirement.

Of course by then I'll be working for Air China and will have been grafted at the bottom of their seniority list so who knows...

[flynhigh]

Thanks for taking time and giving us the numbers...

[Saturn]

You can thank the AOA for that!

DEC's, Yippee!

BTW, the AOA signed off on this! The AOA has let this happen.

[valhalla634]

Saturn - you are indeed on another planet.

The AOA is not some alien organization. Don't whine about what the AOA can or cannot do for you, but find out what you can do FOR the AOA. We are as a good as we make it. An individual moaning about the company is just a noise.

What is your alternative?

[4 driver]

The "AOA" are Cathay Cockpit Crew, Saturn.
If you don't like the direction maybe you should provide positive input into the association instead of complaining.
What action would you take if you were Association President?
What support would that action get from the membership?
Remember when you disparage the "AOA"; you taking a shot at 75% of CX pilots.

[Liam Gallagher]

Did you apply for a Freighter Command?... Yes or No....

[CRWCRW]

I'mbatman (http://www.pprune.org/members/121393-i-mbatman),

Could you run those numbers again, but this time show number of crew that are older than 55, year by year, with the assumption that they will retire at 65. Possible?

[flynhigh]

Will there be more people to retire or less...I thought those number showed everybody on the list....So now can someone tell us how many people are over the age of 55 now....

[I'mbatman]

Everyone on that list that retires 2020 or earlier is a current cx pilot over the age of 55.....I count roughly 227 guys.

[Kitsune]

http://www.pprune.org/freight-dogs/415714-first-ever-ups-pilot-layoffs-begin-sunday.html

[Eyes only]

Good to see that CX has a high percentage of east coast north america based pilots about to disappear when they have finished their 777 line training basing around asia now for a white/purple/orange airline paying more in the USA for flying the same aircraft type.

When you hire people who have total disregard to their fellow employees, how do you expect them to have any regard to their employer.

"Hoello this is Cafe Screw Control you have missed you allocated sign on for Fi Xs 988 can you call screw control immediately on 4742 9948"

[I'mbatman]

that would be great if the purple and orange airline was hiring ;)

[Eyes only]

Its great how the additional four 777F that are arriving this year and the five 777F arriving next year come with crews that are already type rated compliments of Cafe.

[Freehills]

Heh, while agree that Fedex/UPS are much better choices for NA crews than CX in the long run, the idea that new hires will have seniority to hold a 777 seat is unrealistic

[I'mbatman]

What difference does it make? Their smallest airplane provides far better remuneration.

[4 driver]

Looks like Canadians are now unable to bid for US basings so things may be looking up for the Yanks....(right of abode required). Too bad for the 200 Canucks looking to leave Disco Bay in the next few years....

[flynhigh]

So whats going to happen to Canadians who are already based in U.S. do they need to go back to Canada or are being asked to return to Hong Kong...Someone was saying there are over 150 Canadians based in U.S. thats alot of pilots...How is CX going to fill that gap in U.S.

[Oval3Holer]

Remember, that right of abode thing only applies to temporary basings. Laugh.

[4 driver]

fly...I think the Canadians are "legit" in the US. They have SSN numbers or something similar. The US taxman knows about them anyway.
US gov't doesn't seem to care only CX....

[GTC58]

US ITIN numbers