Indonesia at night

[ResBunny]

Could someone please point me towards an Indonesian AIP or similar (On the web)?

I am urgently looking for information on the operating hours of WAAA/UPG and WAPP/AMG, for a nighttime charter from SE Asia to Australia.

For the charter to work we need suitable en-route alternates, and we are being told that neither of these airports are open at night. Yet I am sure both UPG and AMQ have in the past had and/or have current nighttime flights.

Any leads/assistance appreciated.

ResBunny

[training wheels]

For the charter to work we need suitable en-route alternates, and we are being told that neither of these airports are open at night. Yet I am sure both UPG and AMQ have in the past had and/or have current nighttime flights.

Any leads/assistance appreciated.

ResBunny

That can't be right. If you look at the Lion Air online booking site (http://www2.lionair.co.id/Default.aspx), there's a flight that leaves Jakarta at 2215 and arrives Ujung Pandang at 0135. There are also other flights arriving between 1900, 2120, and 2340.

[Smellyapple]

Indoavis Nusantara (http://indoavis.co.id/main/index.php) is the indo aip, not all that reliable though, ive been through on GA as late as 2am in Makassar.
Id imagine you will need to pay a bit to get Ambon open very late though.

[sleeve of wizard]

From the AERAD, WAAA operating hours 2300z-1300z

[training wheels]

Indoavis Nusantara (http://indoavis.co.id/main/index.php) is the indo aip, not all that reliable though, ive been through on GA as late as 2am in Makassar.
Id imagine you will need to pay a bit to get Ambon open very late though.

Smellyapple, thanks for the link; it's very useful. :)

For WAAA/UPG hours are;

Time region: UTC +8
Operation hours: MON-THU : 0000-0830, FRI : 0000-0800 (assuming UTC)

I also checked WIII/CGK and this is what they have listed as their operating hours.

Time region: UTC +7
Operation hours: MON - FRI : 0030 - 0930 (UTC);

Now that definitely can't be right! :confused:

[ResBunny]

Thanks smellyapple for the link, that's exactly what I was after.

I know WAAA/UPG is used by Lion and Garuda every night, I now also know it's used by at least one airline as an en-route alternate most nights.

The frustration as been reconciling published information with the real situation.

Thanks again

ResBunny

[itsbrokenagain]

The Ac-u-kwik (the book and online version) shows WAAA as H24 , there are no notams showing tower hours.

But why dont you just ask your agent in Indonesia... or are you overflying not landing Indonesia...

[on the glide]

Operating time for WAPP is 2200-0900 UTC OH NDB U/S
WAAA is 24H
Some regular flights flying to WAPP by asking the Authority to get clearance for Inbound out of the operating time/extend the time or as an alternate.
The authority is talkable .

Good luck.

otg

[ThrustClimb]

Hi ResBuny,

check the Indonesian DGAC web link at hubud.dephub.go.id


Cheers,