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dragqueen120
5th Apr 2010, 21:00
Hi,
Couldnt find the answer to this (might be my skills on a PC):

If I have low hours on a chopper but hold a ATPL (H)(Frozen) IR(H) but have a lot on fixed wing types and hold ATPL A Frozen etc do they, as in the employers, look at total time over both fixed and rotary or just ignore my fixed wing.

Cheers:O

Whirlygig
5th Apr 2010, 21:05
So, in other words, you mean CPL/IR(A) and CPL/IR(H), both with low hours? I doubt the fixed wing time would count for much unless the hours are in the thousands and it's a full ATPL(A).

....and it's not a chopper please. :}

Cheers

Whirls

verticalhold
5th Apr 2010, 21:20
If you have a frozen ATPL/A IR then I seriously doubt you have a lot of time either fixed or rotary. A lot of time is 5000 hours plus. If you have a frozen ATPL/A in EASA land then you probably have less than 1400 hours which is sadly not a lot in the current climate. Also unless you want to instruct then few hours are as bad as none, most employers will struggle to insure a low hour helicopter (thank you Whirls) pilot on a single pilot operation.

I fly FW and rotary as do two other pilots here, we don't count the hours in either direction because the jobs are so fundamentally different. You either have the time and qualifications in each area or you don't.

dragqueen120
5th Apr 2010, 22:15
"I seriously doubt you have a lot of time either fixed or rotary"

Your serious doubts may be correct, I used the word 'lot' as a comparison of one against the other not as any flexing of muscles but as in 100 vs 1000. I am aware that "a lot of hours" in general terms would be in the thousands but I am looking for an initial job and want to focus my efforts in the right direction (which includes financially) and fancied I might get some sound advice on what counts as relevent in the HELICOPTER industry.

PS- I like the word chopper, I will now go up the wooden hill and see if my mrs likes that terminology too.

gulliBell
6th Apr 2010, 03:49
1000 hours aeroplane time is a creditable effort, but unfortunately not all that helpful at turning 100 hours on helicopters into something much more creditable than 100 hours on helicopters.

Up & Away
6th Apr 2010, 06:51
They used to be called 'choppers' all the time 20 years ago.
Some of us may even recall the car bumper sticker which read
'My chopper is insured for half a Million'.:ok:

An individuals Total time is rightly one's Rotary time AND Fixed wing time. Usually most operators understand the advantage of having more of a varied general aviation experience but each company has an Ops Manual to guide it.
This is written to suit its own individual needs often quoting minimum hours of experience required etc.

170'
6th Apr 2010, 07:38
Once you can get the chopper hours up to a realistic minimum, the 'plane' experience will become more of an influencing factor.

As gulliBell said, your still stuck with low chopper time and little will overcome that except more chopper hours. But Good luck, you got the thousand in planes and you'll get there in eggbeaters as well...

170'

Semi Rigid
6th Apr 2010, 08:33
What is wrong with calling hektopleters 'choppers'? Some of you try hard would be if you could be's need to get a life. Pathetic.
Choppers. Helos. Helicopters. Rererangi hiri hiri's. Mix masta bilong jesus christ.Angry palm tree etc. etc

flap flap flap
6th Apr 2010, 09:52
Rererangi hiri hiri's. Mix masta bilong jesus christ.Angry palm tree etc. etc


Sorry, that was just a noise.

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Tarman
6th Apr 2010, 10:02
The actor playing the Geordie in that clip is the voice over artist who does the Meerkat voice in the insurance adverts. simples :)

ReverseFlight
6th Apr 2010, 13:04
Seriously, I think the time when a crossover might be relevant is when you have very high instrument time in fixed wing and you are looking for a rotary job which requires a lot of instrument flying. Of course the technique and power settings are all different but if there is any thread of commonality, this has to be it.

DBChopper
6th Apr 2010, 13:04
What is wrong with calling hektopleters 'choppers'? Some of you try hard would be if you could be's need to get a life. Pathetic.

Oh dear, oh dear. Do you think the wording and the little face at the end...

....and it's not a chopper please :}.


...might mean that it was said somewhat "tongue-in_cheek?"

Good excuse for the Alan Partridge clip though :ok:

DBHelicopter ;)

dragqueen120
6th Apr 2010, 16:27
Thank you for your comments....all taken on board and appreciated.

I am now off to the shop in my Rover 620i to buy the Alan Partridge box set.

Dan!!!!!!! Dan!!!!! DANNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

helimutt
6th Apr 2010, 18:47
and wot the heckas man duz geordies have tu dee with owt? Some people divvent knaa tha born like?

:eek:

SayItIsntSo
8th Apr 2010, 04:56
Did we really ever use the word ‘chopper’ freely in the eastern hemisphere to describe a rotary wing aircraft? My problem with the word is that I can’t say it, in the aviation context, without breaking into a grin.
Twenty plus years ago I might have used the word as a ‘double-entendre’ to try and make the odd female heli pilot blush but there are so many of them now that it is no longer any fun AND I am supposed to be PC.
Had a T-shirt once with a slogan acknowledging that our organisation had just taken delivery of Bell 214’s which, as most of you know, was a mighty strong and powerful chopper of the Nineteen Seventies, even by American standards!

pilotmike
10th Apr 2010, 09:48
A CPL(H)/IR(H) in 100 hours... Impressive!

Heli-Ice
11th Apr 2010, 23:58
pilotmike

This is was possible a while back, I did my CPL(H) and IR(H) and the FI rating with only 125 hrs. I got a discount based on my FW hrs.

That was before the JAR's in Iceland.

Sebastian-PGP
12th Apr 2010, 13:12
Did we really ever use the word ‘chopper’ freely in the eastern hemisphere to describe a rotary wing aircraft? -9-Te-DPbSE