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No_Speed_Restriction
28th Feb 2010, 05:14
This has probably been answered to death so apologies in advance to the thread police.

If a medium aircraft lines up on a runway from the start end (runway length apx 3000m) and a heavy lines up ahead and takes off from an intersection (lets say a quarter/fifth of the way down), how much timing would you apply?Also, would you start your stopwatch the second the heavy aircraft starts its takeoff roll or would you start timing at that aircraft's rotation?

Gonzo
28th Feb 2010, 16:53
In the UK,

We would apply the same as if they both departed from the threshold. We would only increase the separation if the second, lighter a/c departed from the intersection and the first, heavier a/c departed from the full length.

We apply separation rotation to rotation.

No_Speed_Restriction
28th Feb 2010, 17:00
Cheers for that Gonzo!

dixi188
1st Mar 2010, 11:25
On the subject of wake turbulence, why do some airports say "caution" even when there's 20 knots of crosswind blowing?
It it an "elf'n'safety" thing? i.e. ass covering.
Just wondering.

Gonzo
2nd Mar 2010, 04:48
We are not permitted to reduce wake turbulence separations (distance for inbounds, time for outbounds) for any reason, although reducing inbound spacing in periods of high crosswind/headwind is being worked on.

So, whenever the separation degrades to less than the minimum, we have to warn the a/c involved.