Widger
4th Feb 2010, 19:26
Goodbye, Armed Forces. One force will do | Sam Kiley - Times Online (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article7014097.ece)
I am very much looking forward to Friday's The Times to hopefully view the vast mass of vitriolic rebuttal of this totally crass and un-informed drivel that this Pongo has managed to get published in what is allegedly an intelligent newspaper.
Whilst the newspaper has quite clearly made alterations of his comments in the online version, the main one that people read was riddled with errors.
In Britain CH47 Chinooks are flown by RAF pilots, Sea Kings by the Navy, Apache attack helicopters by the Army Air Corps. In the paper version he had SeaKings being flown by the Army
Helicopters should be under one command for land operations, which must mean under the direction of the Army
..they are under one command....JHC
The Navy must give up on its carrier groups. The money saved would be better spent on the helicopter carriers, destroyers, frigates and fast riverine craft that we can actually use in countering insurgency, black operations and humanitarian missions. These are the vessels that are going to give us our global reach — because they can get places quickly and be put to use. An aircraft carrier is merely threatening.
Like the 30% of CAS support over Afghanistan being provided by the US Navy!
The Army must give up on its tanks and probably its mechanised infantry. It should evolve into an entirely air-and-sea-portable organism capable of sustaining itself, without the staggeringly heavy rear element that we can see at the ever-growing Camp Bastion.
So why earlier in your article ask why we need an RAF at all? How are you going to get there? How are you going to be transported to the battlefield or supplied with food and ammunition?
The younger generation of air, land and sea warriors that the past ten years have produced know that the wars they are fighting today will morph into the conflicts of tomorrow. Much as they love their cap badges, they know that subtle, fast and highly trained small, integrated units are the only way to fight the new form of war that is already upon us. There is now a very good case for copying the US Marine Corps and integrating the Army, Navy and Air Force into one.
the Canadians tried it and sucked back, the Aussies tried it and sucked back, the Yanks don't do it. The USMC are a particular capability, for exercising first entry.
They do not have strategic airlift, the USAF provide that.
They do not have undersea protection, the USN provide that.
They have no strategic bombing capability, the USAF provides that.
They do not have significant artillery or armour, the US Army provides that. They don't have Doctors or dentists, the USN provides that. etc.
The concern is that this article, which took up a whole page of the tabloid version of this broadsheet, was riddled with in accuracies, prejudice and dogma. the irony is that this guy probably work for the MOD at the college of knowledge and is drawing a salary just like many of the other civilian so called "tutors"
I suppose it certainly raised the blood pressure of several people of all cloths and had the combined effect of everyone being in agreement that the man is a c@&k!
I am very much looking forward to Friday's The Times to hopefully view the vast mass of vitriolic rebuttal of this totally crass and un-informed drivel that this Pongo has managed to get published in what is allegedly an intelligent newspaper.
Whilst the newspaper has quite clearly made alterations of his comments in the online version, the main one that people read was riddled with errors.
In Britain CH47 Chinooks are flown by RAF pilots, Sea Kings by the Navy, Apache attack helicopters by the Army Air Corps. In the paper version he had SeaKings being flown by the Army
Helicopters should be under one command for land operations, which must mean under the direction of the Army
..they are under one command....JHC
The Navy must give up on its carrier groups. The money saved would be better spent on the helicopter carriers, destroyers, frigates and fast riverine craft that we can actually use in countering insurgency, black operations and humanitarian missions. These are the vessels that are going to give us our global reach — because they can get places quickly and be put to use. An aircraft carrier is merely threatening.
Like the 30% of CAS support over Afghanistan being provided by the US Navy!
The Army must give up on its tanks and probably its mechanised infantry. It should evolve into an entirely air-and-sea-portable organism capable of sustaining itself, without the staggeringly heavy rear element that we can see at the ever-growing Camp Bastion.
So why earlier in your article ask why we need an RAF at all? How are you going to get there? How are you going to be transported to the battlefield or supplied with food and ammunition?
The younger generation of air, land and sea warriors that the past ten years have produced know that the wars they are fighting today will morph into the conflicts of tomorrow. Much as they love their cap badges, they know that subtle, fast and highly trained small, integrated units are the only way to fight the new form of war that is already upon us. There is now a very good case for copying the US Marine Corps and integrating the Army, Navy and Air Force into one.
the Canadians tried it and sucked back, the Aussies tried it and sucked back, the Yanks don't do it. The USMC are a particular capability, for exercising first entry.
They do not have strategic airlift, the USAF provide that.
They do not have undersea protection, the USN provide that.
They have no strategic bombing capability, the USAF provides that.
They do not have significant artillery or armour, the US Army provides that. They don't have Doctors or dentists, the USN provides that. etc.
The concern is that this article, which took up a whole page of the tabloid version of this broadsheet, was riddled with in accuracies, prejudice and dogma. the irony is that this guy probably work for the MOD at the college of knowledge and is drawing a salary just like many of the other civilian so called "tutors"
I suppose it certainly raised the blood pressure of several people of all cloths and had the combined effect of everyone being in agreement that the man is a c@&k!