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MrBA
16th Jan 2010, 12:32
At 12:30 today IranAir flight IR762 bound for THR skidded off runway 19R at ARN during the initial take-off roll. No reports of injuries and the aircraft an A300 doesn't look too damaged.

The main runway at ARN is now closed UFN.

http://www.expressen.se/polopoly_fs/1.1847145!slot100slotWide75ArticleFull/3447786819.jpg

flaphandlemover
16th Jan 2010, 13:42
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An Iran Air Airbus A300-600, registration EP-IBB performing flight IR-762 from Stockholm Arlanda (Sweden) to Tehran Imam Khomeini (Iran) with 173 people on board, went left off the departure runway 19R at low speed about 150 meters past the runway threshold at about 12:30L (11:30Z). The airplane came to a stop with all gear off paved surface. No injuries occured, the airplane is reported to have received no damages. The passengers deplaned via stairs.

Authorities reported, that the airplane went off the runway while lining up for takeoff, the airplane had not yet begun its takeoff run.

Runway 01L/19R is currently closed.

robgus
16th Jan 2010, 14:01
another picture

http://www.geting.se/image.php/215183-iranaira300.jpg (http://www.geting.se/viewimage.php?image=215183-iranaira300.jpg)

TopBunk
16th Jan 2010, 14:06
ESSA 161320Z 15006KT 9999 FEW018 BKN024 M01/M03 Q1035 R01L/710152
R08/710156 R01R/720278 NOSIG=
ESSA 161250Z 14006KT 8000 BR FEW011 BKN027 M01/M02 Q1035
R01L/710152 R08/710156 R01R///99// NOSIG=
ESSA 161220Z 14005KT 8000 -SG SCT015 BKN022 M01/M03 Q1035
R01L/710152 R08/710156 R01R///99// NOSIG=

From the Actuals it would seem as if the met was not too bad and contamination was minimal and braking action good.

Pure speculation, but assuming no lack of attention, one of the hardest stop situations is with an engine failure at low
speed when rudder authority is minimal. I have done this a few times in the simulator, and remaining on the runway is harder
than with an engine failure close to V1 in 100metres visibility.

Anders Nilsson
16th Jan 2010, 14:26
Some more pictues from ARN: fesa.be (http://www.fesa.be/2010.html)

Anders

captplaystation
16th Jan 2010, 14:58
They didn't read the script, you are supposed to use a B738 for this :D (I guess Wizzair didn't read it either)

SMT Member
16th Jan 2010, 15:11
Going off the paved surfaces seems to be quite "popular" in Europe this winter. If memory serves me right, we've had Air Berlin (x2), Wizzair and now Iran Air. I've excluded the Martinair incident since that didn't happen during flight ops.

Apart from going off, doesn't seem to much else these incidents have in common. Anybody been able to spot common denominators - something we could all learn from?

Mike Whiskey Romeo
16th Jan 2010, 15:18
SMT,

don't forget the FR in PIK too:hmm:

Moonwalker
16th Jan 2010, 15:28
Blame the low timers, easiest so :} :ok: Think the explanation is as simple as more snow... more unusual things happening involved winter ops.

SMT Member
16th Jan 2010, 16:38
Cheers MWR. Come to think of it, didn't someone go offpisting in IST too?

HomelessScientist
16th Jan 2010, 18:43
In the current political climate, shouldn't the headline read "Iranian jet attacks Swedish soil"? :ugh:

SMT Member
16th Jan 2010, 19:01
Just seen picture of a UTAir going off in VKO, no details I'm afraid.

In summary (feel free to add/correct)

Ryanair/PIK
Air Berlin/NUE
Air Berlin/DTM
Wizzair/KBP
AeroSvit/KBP
Iran Air/ARN
UTAir/VKO

That's rather a lot in my opinion, but don't know if it's above/below/on par with the average for a winters season. I think the best that can be said for all these incidents is that nobody got seriously hurt and that most, if not all, of the aircraft will live to fly another day.

m99
16th Jan 2010, 19:53
A video of the incident

Expressen.tv - Nyheter - se TV på expressen.se (http://www.expressen.tv/nyheter/1.1847403/filmen-som-avslojar-kraschen-pa-arlanda)

Nemrytter
16th Jan 2010, 20:02
Going off the paved surfaces seems to be quite "popular" in Europe this winter. If memory serves me right, we've had Air Berlin (x2), Wizzair and now Iran Air.An AN-124 was off-piste on Thursday at EKKA. Don't know many details but it managed to get stuck in the grass, apparently whilst turning onto the runway.

SMT Member
16th Jan 2010, 20:12
Where's EKKA? Somewhere in Denmark I guess, but not familiar with that code.

Nemrytter
16th Jan 2010, 20:45
EKKA is Karup Airport (KRP) in Denmark.

ManaAdaSystem
16th Jan 2010, 21:12
TopBunk was spot on. Left engine stall/failure at low speed followed by a quick exit to the left. FOD? Bird?

doishquattroserche
16th Jan 2010, 21:17
low speed rto always tricky ,if they stopped anywhere near the piano keys then they can be pretty slippery .looks like the engine went pop ,by the time they recognised it ,perhaps the second or two of assymetric thrust got them towards the edge of the rwy which may have been slippery.Actually looks like a good job ,no injuries ,jet largely intact.

perre737
16th Jan 2010, 21:38
TO: m99

Nice post! Should stop all speculations:ok:

hetfield
16th Jan 2010, 21:45
Yup, thx m99:ok:

Like most twins, the A300 is a real beast with T/O thrust in low speed regime.

Good job of the IRAN guys.

stansdead
16th Jan 2010, 22:53
I am led to believe that the runway condition was, frankly, misreported to the Wizzair guys.

And you know what? It doesn't surprise me at all that the guys were given duff info.

The place (KBP) can be a nightmare and needs to be approached with extreme caution in anything other than a summer CAVOK afternoon. Even then, you should be careful.

TBSC
17th Jan 2010, 05:42
Ryanair/PIK
Air Berlin/NUE
Air Berlin/DTM
Wizzair/KBP
AeroSvit/KBP
Iran Air/ARN
UTAir/VKO

There was an Il-76 (Yas Air, EP-GOM) which did a 180 degree pirouette on the runway in Kiev on 09JAN as well.

Incident: Yas Air IL76 at Kiev on Jan 9th 2010, runway excursion on landing (http://avherald.com/h?article=4258f783&opt=0)

GoToGate
17th Jan 2010, 07:06
You can add Norwegian at BDU to that list as well.

Link to existing thread:

http://www.pprune.org/spectators-balcony-spotters-corner/401931-norwegian-off-taxi-way-endu.html

Doug E Style
17th Jan 2010, 19:12
I heard a whisper the other day that an aircraft left the taxiway at Glasgow some time during the recent bad weather. It was rumoured to belong to a large airline based in a low-lying country at the south end of the North Sea.

Swedish Steve
19th Jan 2010, 11:03
Left engine stall/failure at low speed followed by a quick exit to the left. FOD? Bird?

Went to look at the aircraft last night at ARN.
The engine looks perfect, no fan damage, just a spatter of molten metal on the LP turbine blades.
Thats the sort of engine failure I like! Takes 10 seconds to declare an engine change.

hetfield
18th Jan 2013, 08:45
The Swedish Havarikommission (SAIB) released their final report (http://www.havkom.se/virtupload/reports/RL%202012_21e.pdf) concluding the probable causes of the incident were:

Operational

- Deficiencies in the certification process for large aircraft with wing-mounted engines with regard to requirements for yaw stability in the event of sudden loss of engine power in the speed range below VMCG.Ooops!

Does that mean, beside these lovely but over 40 years old planes, ALL LARGE AIRCRAFTS WITH WING-MOUNTED engines are affected?

swapped to R&N

BOAC
18th Jan 2013, 09:04
If you boys and girls would look around a bit you'll find quite a useful thread about this on R&N with a full report too.:ok:

hetfield
18th Jan 2013, 10:50
Yes BOAC.

But the first line of the search function directed me into here....