Cabin Crew Casual (Sydney Based)

[hb78]

This was in todays Sydney Morning Herald. Thought some of you may be interested;

Cabin Crew Casual (Sydney Based)





MUST HAVE:
Customer service experience in a face to face environment.
The right to work and live in Australia.
Physically fit with a good attendance record in current role.

Over 18 years of age.
Between 163cm-183cm in height (desirable).

Fluent in English both written and spoken.
Prepared to work any day of the year, at any time including
weekends.
Exceptional grooming standards.

Strong interpersonal and communication skills.
AND IN POSSESSION OF:

Current Senior First Aid Certificate with 12 months validity.
Responsible Service of Alcohol Certificate.

Valid passport with a minimum of 12 months validity.
School Certificate (Year 10 or relevant work experience).
THEN WE CAN OFFER YOU:
Casual work.

Australia domestic flying based out of Sydney.

Please email your CV outlining your direct experience relating
to our "must have". Only successful applicants will be invited to interview.Email to

cabincrewsyd at tmsap dot com (remove at and dot!)

And here is the direct link at mycareer.com.au

Cabin Crew Casual (Sydney Based) job in Sydney Metro, NSW ( Customer Service and Call Centre:Customer Service ) (http://mycareer.com.au/jobs/sydney/customer-service-contact-centre/customer-service/7289510+cabin+crew+casual+sydney+based.aspx?s=155)

Hope it helps somebody!

[ANstar]

Hmm I wonder what airline it is for? Tiger?

[Brindabella24]

I saw an ad on Seek with exactly the same wording as this and it was for casual cbin crew for someone called TMS Asia Pacific...I had never heard of them but applied anyways!

[glitzy-luc]

I saw this ad on seek too...says tms asia pacific so I went on thieir website but it doesnt seem to be an airline but more a recruitmnet agency...Anyone have anymore info on the airline as I would like to apply for the Goldcoast!

[TeamJQboy]

It is quite possible this is an advertisement for casual cabin crew that Jetstar will soon be hiring.

I'm Team Jetstar cabin crew currently and we have been told by management that to effectively cover peak periods of flying (ie. school holidays/Christmas), Jetstar will be employing a pool of casual cabin crew which it can call upon during these times. Recruitment of permanent full-time crew to the Team Jetstar operation will still continue alongside.

They said they were expecting to be hiring the casual crew around Jan or Feb (2010). So it fits that this ad may very well be for JQ. But who knows!

[GalleyHag]

FAAA Jetstar News

Short Term Flight Attendants
&
Casuals

Attn Members,

Most of you will be aware that last week Jetstar announced an intention to engage temporary flight attendants, some of whom may be commencing next month. Jetstar has held a preliminary meeting with the FAAA to discuss their proposal and we are able to confirm the following:

- Over the next two months Jetstar may recruit a number of flight attendants
from Strategic Aviation on a short term basis to assist with covering flying over the busy summer period.

- The Company has agreed that the crew employed on a short term basis
to cover the holiday period will be used on a “Last call basis”. Which means that they will not be allocated work until all JQ and TJQ available have been exhausted.

- Going forward Jetstar may engage casual Flight Attendants on an ongoing
basis, either directly employed by the Group or through a labour contractor.

While in principle the FAAA is not opposed to the use of casuals in circumstances where their presence improves roster stability, fatigue levels, and day off bidding for existing crew, we must be satisfied and ensure that the process provides fair and reasonable outcomes for all crew involved.

The company has agreed to further discussions on this important matter.

We will of course keep members updated on any further developments in this regard.

[lizzimac]

Isn't it casual, do you know anymore about the conditions?

[KK1000]

This job is to work for Jetstar as a casual. I've been invited to the assessment day on 5th Jan. anyone else going?

[Brindabella24]

I too have been invited to the RD on January 5th but have decided not to go. I've agonised over it but at the end of the day it's going to cost me ginormous amounts of money to get over there for less than 2 days to a thing I may not even be successful at and which is only casual work anyways. It seems too much of a risk, and is very short notice. I hate it, but I think I need to start small in a position in my own state first before I do anything like this.

[KK1000]

I wonder if the conditions will be similar to MAM. ie no staff travel + no sick pay holiday pay (the usual "perks" of a casual). Also a question i have been wondering is if we go for the casual position and get it, are we able to transfer to fulltime at some stage or is that option no longer available as we belong to the agency and JQ would have to pay a fee for us to be fulltime? Also if we are unsuccessful would it affect us in applying for other JQ/QF positions. Hmmmmmm. Im still going to go to the interview of course and find all of this information out before deciding. I applied for the JQ fulltime sydney position aswell but havent heard a thing from that. I just hope going to the casual interview wont ruin my chance at the fulltime job, whenever they decide to do more RD's!

[ozangel]

The original JQ EBA has provision for Casual flight attendants, and the conditions are fair - not over or underpaid.

I thought MAMers now got Staff Travel?

I couldn't find any info about casual employment in the Team JQ eba.

I guess all will be revealed on the big day (one would hope), but I really think that the conditions are dependent on whether its under the current JQ eba provisions for casuals (the EBA is fairly specific), or whether its outsourced and a new employment agreement is created.

As for staff travel, it's a benefit that is sure to guarantee that many of those whom they recruit in the coming months, stick around. From a cost saving point of view (recruitment and training is expensive), it would be a very sound investment. My understanding was that MAM introduced it for this very reason - staff retention, less training, at ultimately a minimal expense to the company.

I could be wrong - and time will tell.

Good luck. x

[RoyBoy78]

Does the 'original EBA' with the provision for casual crew mention anything about min/max hours - ie. few long shifts vs alot of short shifts.
Obviously $4k per month would be gross, on a max (ie. > 150 pm) duty hours.
Like other LCC, is there a training bond to be paid and/or uniform provided free of charge??

And, worse case scenario, when the 'casual' crew are no longer required, or have minimum hours, will they have the opportunity to apply to Team J* or QF without prejudice.

Surely there is someone out there that has the 'word' on things moving fwd.
Cheerio & Happy New Year Wannabes

[hellorian]

They will not be on the old JQ EBA but a different contract through an agency, employing for TJI, they will have no staff travel and have no guarantee of a job after the very short term contract is up. It is only to cover a gap in JQ domestic in the short term during the busy season. It is only domestic flying as well, please keep this in mind, with no minimum hours and you would be used last if they can't find a TJQ person to do the shift, very last minute and on call...

hope that sheds more light!

[RoyBoy78]

Points noted.
As former crew of another Singapore-owned 'cat' of an airline, it could be worse.
I'm assuming the manuals are up-to-date and you don't have to pay for crew water if it runs out.

Even if it's short-term, there'll still be the mandatory 4-5 weeks fully-paid training - dowsing fires and exacuating aircrafts at the sim etc etc.

For potential flying opportunities in a close-knit, 3 player industry where politics outweighs competence, any flying hours on the cv is positive.

I'd rather (if it was me) rock up to an assessment day with flying experience than call-centre experience. But I am Gen X, not Gen Y, so I don't expect everything to arrive on my table tray yesterday.

And I'd say, potential employers will pick up the speed of attitudes in the assessment centres.

Happy trails,
'Rotate' :-)

[hellorian]

sorry to say but it is def a temp thing with no guarantee...

the inside word from TJQ is that because this is a random new thing for JQ they have no idea how it will work and are a bit sceptical about how they will work within the model.

Having said that i would give it a shot, jq can be a challenging employer but its a fun job and worth doing for the experience!

Best of Luck:ok:

[KK1000]

Min 15 days a month availability but min 50 hours work. $20.55 per duty hour + block hour pay ($10-12 unsure yet). No staff travel, and when asked about pay for training they were again unsure yet. Training set to commence 15th feb. no mention of how long a contract would be if there was one, its all a big vague as they are still developing the position and the contract etc. guess we will see how it goes! good luck for everyone going to the interviews!

[RoyBoy78]

ellie8,
Can I suggest you re-direct your South East QLD, team Jet* to the 'Jetstar Wannebees' forum in this link?
This current link is STRICTLY concerned with Casual Cabin Crew, Sydney-based.
Pl respect this space for fellow ppruner who aren't Queensland-obsessed.
:ugh:

[RoyBoy78]

KK1000
Thanks for updating the forum on this - really cool to hear.
Worked out, if you do, say, 15 days per month on an average 8 hour shift (give or take, but as an average), at $20.55 ph + block pay, say at 11.50 per hour (ie. $32 x 120 hours) would equate to $3850 per month - but that is only a forecast/average.
Obviously that won't be every month, but as an 'example' of potential, not too bad.
I guess it comes downs to the individual. Whether you're prepared to take the punt or stay safe in a (ie. Wannabes) unhappy job.

I for one have flown for 4 years, are now out of it for 3 months and miss it like my mum!
Based on the Jetstar Air Asia shared 'resources' announcement yesterday, I'd say Jetstar will only grow more, and this could potential open doors (so the speak).
Do you know if the training will take place over 4-6 weeks?? It takes this long to get through things thoroughly.

RoyBoy78 ;)

[hb78]

Exactly the same ad appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald today again, but this time it was for a company called "Altara"

Exact same requirements as above however the email to send your 1 page resume is careers at altara dot aero (remove and replace at and dot!)

Link to a copy on Mycareer is;

Casual Cabin Crew (Sydney Based) job in Sydney Metro, NSW ( Other:Other ) (http://mycareer.com.au/jobs/sydney/other/other/7317321+casual+cabin+crew+sydney+based.aspx?s=777)

[Ozcrew]

I was at the recent Assessment Centres in Sydney for Casual Cabin Crew and they were jointly run by a company called Altara Resources and Jetstar.
Altara are employing as previously stated in this thread on behalf of Jetstar casual cabin crew. They were all really nice - its seems like it's a pretty new concept.
All the figues regarding wages etc - $20.55 per hour + a flight allowance was also confirmed amoungst other general wage and condition info.
It seems casuals will have to list 15 available days per month including 2 weekends (4 weekend days) and recieve a minimum of 50 hours a month but potentialy more if you want it. :ok:

[tinkerbell200]

Hi Ozcrew,

Altara are holding assessment days next Wednesday and Thursday, can you give me an idea on what to expect, and how did you go? Is there anyone else who has attended the Altara assessment days. Thanks:):)

[ellie8]

Hi all, does anyone know whats going on with this Team Jetstar Casual Cabin Crew position being run by Altara now & not by TMS Asia Pacific as was first advertised? Have Altara taken over recruitment from TMS or was it always a jointly run recruitment for Team Jetstar??? Im confused....Good luck to those going to recruitment days next week in SYD!!!:ok:

[KK1000]

Anyone starting ground school on 15th or 22nd feb?

[Courtney0608]

Yes... is anyone starting GS on 15th or 22nd?

Im still waiting to hear back about JQ Full time SYD base.

Have heard they are running one GS on the 8th, but many of us still waiting...

And our RD's were in Dec!

Goodluck to all waiting to hear back :)

[flitegirl]

I think you will find that Jetstar will not employ crew for full time positions if they are starting ground-schools for the casual positions. If they did this, the third party employer would only have to recruit more applicants, costing the client airline (JQ) money.

[coffee or tea]

hi everybody, im new to this site and i found it so helpful. i applied as casual cabin crew for altara aero (based in sydney & melbourne), and they had confirmed that my application is successful and waiting for the 2nd stage of assessment.

does anyone have the same info received. pls leave your input and other related issues.

many thanks...:rolleyes:

[ellie8]

Hi all. Im just wondering if anyone starting (or in) ground school for Jetstar Casual Cabin Crew can tell me how long GS goes for & if you get paid whilst doing it like full-timers do? Also is there a contract/agreement? Feel free to PM me if you want. Thanks:)

[Muizenberg]

Just wondering how those who started on 15 & 22 Feb are going with the Ground school?

I'm due to start soon with Jetstar/Altara...:)

Many thanks.

[coffee or tea]

Hi Muizenberg,

Good luck on your career with Jetstar/Altara.
Do you have any idea when will be the next Interview? I applied as CC too and they informed me about my application that first stage is successful. And 2nd stage of assessment to be advised later, however, til now no info receive yet.
Please need your feedback.
Many thanks.:)

[Muizenberg]

Tea or Coffee,

I know the next SYD GS is 1 March 2010. I am waiting for a later course date.

My interview was back in January. I know alot is dependent upon when Jetstar will received new aircraft; and I'm sure once the groups from 15/22 Feb are on-line, how well the casual programme works for Jetstar.

Good luck!

[GoldCoast1]

Hi Muizenberg,

my girlfriend started GS on Monday 22/2 for Altara (Jetstar), she's loving it. A A lot of study this week with the theory, and on Sunday they are off to Melbourne for 2 weeks for the practicial side of things. There is a GS starting on Monday are you starting then?

[coffee or tea]

Muizenburg my dear....

Thanks for the info.
If you have further updates/details please feel free to inform us...
I am so eager to have the interview soon....:bored:

Hope to hear from you again.

Many thanks & Good Luck.

[ilana182]

Hi GoldCoast1. Do you know if your friend is getting paid to do the GS for Altara. And does she know how many shifts she'll be doing a month?

[CruisyCabinChick]

Hi all
I am new to this forum, so pl forgive me if it's already been answered.
I'm experienced crew, was invited to the open day in Sydney last month and are awaiting potentially an invitation to a Melbourne open day.
Has anyone been invited.
I have also 'registered my interest' with Team J* and received an email directing me to the 'Agency' website - which I already have.

Any info would be fab.
Thanks
CC Chick :ok:

[coffee or tea]

Hi CrusiyCabinChick,

Welcome to the forum,

Casual CC interview for altara aero is not yet finalized, according to them those who are successfully selected on the first stage will be notified accordingly thru email.

Good luck.:ok:

[ellie8]

Hi,

im just wondering how those who recently started ground schools with Altara (Jetstar Casual) are doing? Also, has anyone who recently got through the first assessment stage have any idea of when the assessent day would be held? (I was considering emailing Altara but I might wait a little longer). The email I got just said that it could be in the next few weeks or months and they would keep my details on file until a date is set for my chosen location...i hope its soon!:) Good luck to those in ground schools and those still waiting for interviews or ground schools to start:ok:

[ilana182]

I emailed them about dates, because I'm going to Tokyo for a week in the middle of March and was worried I wouldn't be able to go. They emailed me back and said they would be end of March / start of April.

[KK1000]

You get paid for ground school if you complete it successfully, though no overnight/meal allowance in melb for training (they pay for your flights down & accomm) lots and lots of study pass mark 80% no time for partying or stuffing around. No one has their rosters yet but we nominated available days for end of March and all of April on our first day. Word in the crew room is that there will be plenty of work available if you want it which is good. Dont bother applying if you have holidays planned from now till may that are longer than 1-2 weeks because at ground school you will get told to go home. Good luck to everyone applying, pm me with any questions!

[ellie8]

Thanks for the info KK1000 & Ilana182, much appreciated! Thats great that the next lot of recruitment days wont be too far away! Its also fantastic that there is a decent ammount of work available:) I am sooo excited!:ok:

[Don the Smokehood]

Is anyone able to share more information about the conditions of employment? The 15 days availability that are required, are you paid while "available" or do you only get paid if you actually get called in to work on an "available" day? What happens on an "available" day - are you required to be on call at short notice if a duty comes up? Do you have to accept whatever duty is given to you? What sort of duties do you get - mainly domestic day returns or do you get trips as well?
Would be great if anyone could shed as much light as possible for those of us considering submitting an application but unsure if it's suitable for us. Am hoping it's not like MAM but suspect that it is.

[coffee or tea]

Does anyone knows what's really goin' on now with the above recruitment/interviews?...please drop your inputs/details here.

Many thanks...:confused:

[ilana182]

With the Altara positions, does anyone know if they call all THREE of your references?

And, anybody who was successful with the Altara positions, how many shifts per month have you been getting?