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OffCdt
28th Jun 2000, 15:09
If anyone out there is a student member of a UAS, I have suggested to www, and he is willing to set up a UAS private forum if there is enough interest in it. We have quite a few hundred members, including ground branch members, and a private discussion forum would be useful to pass on information about all the things we experience, which would be less wise to pass on to anyone at all who reads the public forums, such as the success of the Grob, good or bad stations for SVAs, and support for others for OASC, providing more freedom to post as well. If there is enough interest, WWW is prepared to set it up.

I know that many of you will be starting summer camp about now, so I will keep bringing this to the top of the forums with a blank posting every so often, if nobody else posts on it.

If you are a current UAS member, and agree that this should go ahead, please e-mail myself at [email protected] or alternatively e-mail [email protected] though I don't want to clog up his e-mail. This posting is repeated in the Wannabes forum.

Metman
29th Jun 2000, 14:46
Would there be any value adding Air Cadets to that forum?? I know a huge amount read the board, and they are as close to the UAS as anything else?

If you dont like the idea, say so!!! :) Dont want to ruin your forum before it even starts!

Cheers,
Metman

OffCdt
29th Jun 2000, 18:04
Yes, I guess Air Cadets as well may be a good idea, especially, as we are so closely linked to many AEFs. However, they may not be interested in the topics for which the forum would be used by UAS studes ie operational stuff and inter-squadron events, but more in the recruitment information for which the wannabes forum is more suitable. I dunno really: I guess WWW would be open to suggestions.

djgriffiths
30th Jun 2000, 02:04
EMUAS here. Why not give it a go, there's no harm. Send a fax round all the squadrons, let them know how it all works where to find the site etc and lets get it moving. Then we can let you know how much better the EMU's are!!!

OffCdt
1st Jul 2000, 04:39
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Capt. Crap
2nd Jul 2000, 14:51
offcdt,
The mentioning of Air Cadets got me interested. I recently visited EMUAS on work experience with the instructors from CFS. After my trip I was certain that that was what I wanted to do, join a UAS when I was at that age. I would be interested on the forum as it would give a good insight into your lives as cadets at a UAS. Anyway, I would be grateful if we were invited to be in this forum,
CC. ;)

Capt. Crap
3rd Jul 2000, 01:22
in the forum, duh!

Justin Cider-Belvoir
4th Jul 2000, 18:23
djg

Ref. EMUs, that'll be - Big ugly birds that can't fly. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif

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OffCdt
15th Jul 2000, 23:59
Come on, some poeple must be interested!

[This message has been edited by OffCdt (edited 18 August 2000).]

OffCdt
18th Aug 2000, 18:50
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Guido
20th Aug 2000, 17:13
A private forum is all well and good if you just want to talk about passing the odd exam or so, or even facilities at other sqns' stations. However there are a lot of us out here with all sorts of experience, from student to instructor who will pass on their knowledge with pleasure. However if you do go private on the forum you must moderate it well. The RAF powers that be regard collusion in examinations as a BIG NO NO. Don't pass on or post exam paper answers. Hints are OK though.

Guido
20th Aug 2000, 23:24
A re-post maybe because I can't find the original.
If you want to have a private forum for UAS what topics will you discuss?
If you are only talking about good locations for summer camp, party dates and the likes it will work. However the moderator here will have to be on his/her toes to ensure that topics such as the "Answers" to certain aviation related exams are not displayed and slagging of sqn personalities remains at banter level only. If you read a few forums in other areas you will see how quickly tempers rise and words are used unadvisadly (fizzog for example and indeed the chap you asked to allow this forum bear witness to the point I allude)with retractions and apologies in order.
Also the military powers that be would take exception to collusion in a bigger way than the CAA if someone at WWW's flying club posted all the answers to current PPL/CPL exam papers.
AND if you believe your forum will not be viewed by 'authority' think again. Some of the doddery old farts have worked out how to change names and become accepted as something they are not to be able to find out what's going on. There is no way an easily traceable email address would be left with a civilian moderating a topic within the military sites.
As an aside, don't you think it better that all UAS members have an input? After all most ex-members have something to give and would gladly share their experience if asked. I have been a member of 4 different UASs over the long years at various times, ranging from student to CFI and would be pleased to pass on help, if a little out date at the moment, but if help is needed, as the saying goes "I know a man who can".

OffCdt
22nd Aug 2000, 14:24
Agree with what you say: don't know who would moderate, but I would be prepared to do so. I do not think sharing of exams would happen: I people wanted to do it, they would be less obvious about it eg direct e-mail to each other. Most are honest enough, and it will only be their loss. Whoever moderates would not allow personal attacks either: it can lead to litigation. True, many ex-UAS members offer a lot of advice, as do the staff, however, it is a student perspective, and regarding past members, things do change quickly ie the introduction of the Grob Tutor. Help is welcome though.

Max R8
22nd Aug 2000, 22:31
Would this be a true UAS forum, or a UAS students only forum?

OffCdt
23rd Aug 2000, 12:51
It was intended as a students only forum, but there seems a lot of interest from former members and staff as well, so I don't know. It could manage I think, as it is anonymous. It would be to organise ents, and help with OASC, anything useful going over to wannabes etc, but remain private so not as to divulge some things such as meeting places to the general public.

raytofclimb
24th Aug 2000, 01:20
Try e-mailing all of the UASs with your ideas. Maybe despite all having internet access at Uni most guys aren't aware of PPRUNE.

Tomb
27th Aug 2000, 20:23
SUAS:

Sounds like a good idea, we've got our own version of the pprune network on our web site. www.airsquadron.co.uk (http://www.airsquadron.co.uk)

Sadly it's members access only at the moment.

BUT!

I could open it up to all the air suqadrons if there is sufficient demand for it! Pending the Boss' approval of course.

Genghis the Engineer
30th Aug 2000, 14:04
Ex SUAS here, too many years ago. How's life down there?

Interestingly in a later life at Boscombe myself (Engineer) and two test pilots got two Bulldogs to play with (testing some late-in-life mods). Turned out that we'd all flown one or other of them on a UAS.

I suspect that given the breadth of experience in here, UAS discussions would be better in the military pilots forum rather than locked away.

G

Tomb
31st Aug 2000, 17:43
SUAS is still alive and well, although limited to one runway due to the harrier crash!

The UAS forum would not be locked away, it would be public access for all.

It would be moderated by UAS people.

Each UAS could have their own privite banter areas, and there could be common areas that all members could post messages in.

Just an idea. Although I do agree that input from other "non UAS" people would be a good thing.




[This message has been edited by Tomb (edited 31 August 2000).]

OffCdt
21st Sep 2000, 14:55
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OffCdt
2nd Oct 2000, 14:59
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Paddington*
21st Dec 2001, 04:37
Was there ever any positive outcome to this proposed idea of a UAS forum?

Flatus Veteranus
21st Dec 2001, 07:49
OffCdt

You made your point well - no need to repeat it. Full marks for articulacy! :) :)

BEagle
21st Dec 2001, 10:43
From which one can only conclude that the majority of UAS students are either working hard (unlikely) or too busy boozing, chasing the opposite sex and generally being 'students' (far more likely) to be ar$ed to bother with the work involved in setting up their own site!

Tonkenna
22nd Dec 2001, 15:23
This was looked into a short while ago, and while there is considerable support from both staff and students there is very little from "management". So, for the time being there will not be a PPRuNe UAS forum. It is fairly straight forward to set a forum up on your own site (I am told), but, while I was willing to do the work to set up a PPRuNe based site (as it was just about sorted and the forum is ofcourse set up) I am way to busy to set another one up.

Any one wanting to do so should seriously think about it before they continue as there is still a great deal of anti-internet feeling in the higher echelons of the RAF.

Tonks

Hi BEagle, happy Christmas <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Woz
22nd Dec 2001, 16:14
You should get your favourite underling to do it, Tonks. I don't think he works hard enough.

D'oh!

Enjoy your holidays; I'm off back to bed to recover after the "end of term" festivities.

Merry Christmas all! :) :)

mikeudall
25th Dec 2001, 20:12
Any UAS students who want to get in contact with someone in NUAS or ex NUAS members can visit our forums and chat page <a href="http://www.dur.ac.uk/nuas/chat.php3?user=guest&password=guest" target="_blank">here</a>.

Any problems/queries/objections please email [email protected] . I don't check pprune regularly. Cheers.

(These pages are for keeping in touch and for banter only, not for discussing the successes and failures of the UAS system or anything else controversial.)

Iceolareanic
26th Dec 2001, 04:57
If the UASs can have their own private forum, maybe the genuine military aircrew could have their own private forum?

PPRuNe Dispatcher
27th Dec 2001, 14:41
How could we verify that someone applying to join a private military forum is actually a serving member of the forces?

--Mik

Tricky Woo
27th Dec 2001, 18:31
Dear PPRuNe Dispatcher,

That's a very good point. Damn it: just as I was going to suggest a private forum for pilots involved in espionage, covert operations and such like.

Ah well, we all know who we are, right? Wink, wink.

TW

General41
27th Dec 2001, 19:02
The answer presents itself in three easy steps:

1. Get a copy of the airforce/army/navy lists
2. Get members to ensure they give a service number and rank; both are contained in the aforementioned publications
3. If they lie about it ban them from pprune!!!!!

As for covert operatives like me ********** have i said too much already????

Ed Winchester
28th Dec 2001, 07:46
General41,

Does this mean that you can only be a member of the military aircrew forum if you are in the Royal Air Force, Royal Navy or British Army then? What about the rest of the big wide world of military aircrew?

Personally I think the idea of a 'private' military aircrew forum stinks. It closes the door to ex-mil aircrew, wannabees, blunties etc, and would be boring (IMHO). What are the advantages?

If I want to hear the opinions of my military aircrew brethren and nobody else, I'll go to the crewroom.

General41
28th Dec 2001, 17:27
Just merely suggesting how the problem,if it were to be addressed at a point in the future, could be solved from a British Point of View. Anyway i'm not sure that all these private forums are a good idea anyway! From my experience of UAS persons in the UK, they're all a bit clique.

Personall i'd rather just go to me Sqn crewroom as u suggested.