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Bombay
25th Nov 2009, 07:51
I just read on the newswires that Mike Pero is chartering a B747 for an Erebus memorial flight in late January. Claims it's a non-commercial venture.

ZK-NSJ
25th Nov 2009, 09:56
Given that air nz is only allowing a small number of family members to travel, im suprised they didnt come up with the idea, as someone who lost someone in the crash i would love to go on the flight mr pero is organising, the prices look similar to the prices qantas charge.

max rate
26th Nov 2009, 00:49
I'm not an airline and I don't ever want to be one

Um......Origin Pacific:confused:

tartare
26th Nov 2009, 02:36
So let me get this straight Air NZ.
Mike Pero's flight is a PR stunt?
What does that make your apology to the families then?

remoak
26th Nov 2009, 09:43
Pero should stick to flogging mortgages.

Failed F/O with Air Nelson if I remember correctly, then a major shareholder in Origin Pacific (which failed shortly thereafter), and then bought into Pacific Simulators (which also failed shortly thereafter).

It used to be amusing watching him running a racing team and being a major sponsor in the NZ V8's, apparently just so that he could run around at the back of the field and pretend to be a racing driver.

Way too much money for his own good... this flight may not be a publicity stunt, but it was extremely poorly thought out and handled.

captncannot
26th Nov 2009, 15:02
Pero should stick to flogging mortgages.

It used to be amusing watching him running a racing team and being a major sponsor in the NZ V8's, apparently just so that he could run around at the back of the field and pretend to be a racing driver.

Way too much money for his own good... this flight may not be a publicity stunt, but it was extremely poorly thought out and handled.

Gee if you thought sitting in the stands was amusing, do you reckon driving one might be a hoot? I know where I'd rather be sitting.

seriously remoak, if we cut all the poppies where do you think the jobs and value creation would come from??

tartare
26th Nov 2009, 18:16
Agree.
The guy was just trying to help, until the CEO of the Year got his nose out of joint.
Another flight on the day just means less publicity for Air NZ's little jaunt.
That's why they're angry.

Cypher
26th Nov 2009, 20:25
Still pi$$ed off at the NZ Aviation Industry I see remoak.....

remoak
27th Nov 2009, 00:55
There's not much point in job creation if the jobs you create cease to exist shortly thereafter. It's nothing to do with tall poppies, some people do this stuff extraordinarily well, but Pero's recent track record has been anything but. At some point you have to differentiate between clever businessmen and lucky businessmen.

And Pero has pretty much nothing to do with the NZ aviation industry any more, so no, no particular issue with the NZ aviation industry, other than it's intensely parochial nature and utter inability to follow international trends in safety and regulation. But hey, I learned to live with that years ago. It's just that I'll call it what it is, which I know upsets some of you sensitive souls...

Water Wings
27th Nov 2009, 02:05
Agree.
The guy was just trying to help, until the CEO of the Year got his nose out of joint.
Another flight on the day just means less publicity for Air NZ's little jaunt.
That's why they're angry.

Charging upwards of $8000 a seat is not my idea of help. Had he announced this Charter Flight any other week of the year I suspect you would get a very different response from Air New Zealand but 3 days before the Erebus anniversary....come on :bored:

WOOLLY
27th Nov 2009, 03:33
When in the last 30 years, other than now, have the families of the
victims been given an opportunity to visit or even view the crash site. Seems everyone but, appears to have been.

I would be interested to know the number of reporters, MP's,management, authors, photograhers are down there this time with the 6 family members.

So, there is a cost. Better than never having an opportunity at all.

:hmm:

Water Wings
27th Nov 2009, 09:27
I would be interested to know the number of reporters, MP's,management, authors, photograhers are down there this time with the 6 family members.


So few I could name them all. The official party consists of ten. Two from TVNZ (one reporter, one cameraman) who flew earlier in the week and the eight who went today (six relatives, the Reverend and David Morgan from Air New Zealand).

Chocks Away
1st Dec 2009, 09:59
Typical Kiwis cutting down a bloke that puts his head up to help... non-profit!
The home town airline- still tax-payer owned, was shown up for it's cheap publicity (which they're maximising!) and lack of service ...so it goes the jugular with the help of the "tall-poppy shredding" Kiwi media.
F#@gin get a grip and grow up you guys.
No wonder you're still way behind and Tassie has a better standard of living, CPI and GDP than you!:hmm:

remoak
2nd Dec 2009, 03:08
Nothing Pero does is ever "non-profit", he always has an angle...

Chocks Away
7th Dec 2009, 09:06
That may be true Remoak but I know any profit from it was to go to a charity he named on NZ Radio.

Not wanting to high-jack a thread elsewhere, in which I was slagged by one Kiwi as being uninformed in my comments on this topic here.
billyt: Just uninformed comment from him(Chocks) thats all.
I am definitely the opposite champ and have had direct dealings, so sorry you can't handle what I say and keep eating up all the pro- Air'Bro "spin" the NZ media are so good at.:)

Shredder6
7th Dec 2009, 21:11
Nothing Pero does is ever "non-profit", he always has an angle

Same could be said for AirNZ.

Why didn't AirNZ put on a special flight themselves in one of the spare 400s that is sitting at AKL?

joeflyguy
7th Jan 2010, 00:07
Isint it amasing that Air NZ cared squat about the families of thoses lost, until the 30th anniversary of Erebus happened to coincide with the anniversary of Perpignon, and then they developed a social conscience ? After 29 years of ignoring every single memorial of the victims ? PLEASE ! They developed a media opportunity is all, and they got pissed when Mike Pero stepped on their "ownership" of this tragedy.

Air NZ should just be ashamed of themselves. Well done Pero for at least giving the families an opportunity to visit the site - even if from the air. Something Air NZ who created the tragedy never thought to do. And sure the flight was going to be expensive. Air Travel is. But as stated he was not going to make acent profit from it.