roxair

[acme42]

Hello,

anybody heard about these guys?

roxair (http://www.roxair.de)

They compare themselves with Jetbird and Blink saying that they would perform better. With King Airs:O?

Greetings,

Arthur

[No RYR for me]

Interesting. Day Jet without the aircraft... How will they be able to get sufficient cloud and thus the low cost that we all are unable to get in the industry????

It is the classic business aviation problem: The only way to solve it is HUGE amounts of money to be able to build up a fleet and even then the cost will never really go down enough. :8 Claiming that they will be able to pay back the investors after 5 years is a clear signal that it will not fly :{

[airmail]

I think the fact that there are no people referenced on the site (i.e. Board of Directors, VC's etc) says more about this organisation than anything else. Additionally (and I'm not in this market) the graphs and figures that they quote seem optimistic to me when you consider how long it has taken some now established operators to start paying dividends to investors.

Like I say, I'm not in this market and if it is real I wish them the best but not to say who is behind it to give potential investors confidence strikes me as very dubious.

[acme42]

Thanks for your thoughts. I have no clue on what is usual to disclose to the public if one looks for investors like they do. At least the board of directors is shown here: roxair Welcome! (http://www.roxair.de/en/index-1.html)

I was just wondering about how they want to reach their goals ( I mean, come on, look at their charts!).
They set themselves apart from known air taxi business models if you read through the market and investment pages of their website. It seems that they want to run a special kind of sofware and use Turboprops. Although I'm just a curious pilot, I might drop them an email, maybe they share a bit of their "secret"? But I doubt it.;)

[yacan]

They have big plans as shown on their website.

387.000 passengers per year in 2015.
Tickets start @ 59.- Euros/hr

I am wondering how many aircrafts they need for this business model.
With Jet Republic and JetBird we have seen already ambitious dreams but we will keep an eye on them and wish ROXAIR good luck. :-)

[SpeedbirdXK8]

There is a lot management with a C in their title, I wonder whether they will be seen next Tuesday:eek:

[V12]

Oh dear, website uses those 3 killer words:

"Defining....Groundbreaking....revolutionizing...."

and to cap it all: "Roxair will dwarf almost any other business model within business aviation"



PUL..EEESE - have we learned nothing? Or will we all die of marketing speak?

[drogue chute]

Speedbird... Priceless!:E

[SpeedbirdXK8]

drogue chute - thanks, I have my moments:ooh:

[acme42]

v12: :O, while googeling for news on that company I've found that they have at least an advertising agency: plan p. GmbH, Hamburg, GERMANY (http://tiny.cc/T6MSo) - so I guess you're very right, they feel quite comfy @ home in marketing land. Still, I somehow like to hear an explanation for their charts someday... roxair - company (http://tiny.cc/YImXm) And will they remove their comparison to JetBird in that price chart, now that Jetbird is gone? http://tiny.cc/bAG6S

Anyway: happy holidays, everyone!