The Definitive Mod Knock Thread

[pigsinspace]

THis is not a flame or trying to cause trouble BUT why do so many threads get deleted?

recently there were 2 threads running about blunties....both deleted, Now those threads were not causing abuse or harm to anyone, they were discussions.

I know of many other threads that have "vanished".

Couple of Questions.

1. Are any of the mods either military or ex military (recent)
2. Why is there no notification if threads just "vanish" especially if they run to multiple pages.
3. Can we not have what is commonly known as a flame room where any contensious threads can be moved to and anything(within reason) said?

I dont expect this post to last long and I dont expect notification from the mod concerned when it "vanishes"

Thank you and good Morning

[411A]

It may well not have anything to do with 'moderators.'
IF the first post of a thread is removed by the original poster, the whole thread disappears....without any notice whatsoever...IE: it's done automatically.

[Griz]

In a nutshell....censorship. And not necessarily from the moderators.

Makes me wonder what the point of this forum is. Everyone needs to vent frustration every now and then. The threads you talked about were actually quite entertaining, and if read in the proper frame of mind, quite thought provoking.

'O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us
To see oursels as others see us.' - Burns

[FJJP]

I don't know any of the Mods personally, but as far as I am concerned they generally do a good job. Voluntarily.

As the name suggests, they generally keep a lid on the offensive and especially where security may be involved. The security aspect is often a judgement call or acting on the advice of a serving or ex-serving Ppruner.

On one or two occasions, I have had cause to advise the Mods that certain discussions were getting too close to sensitive subjects and they have acted accordingly.

Yes, it is censorship of a kind, but you know, we all self censor all the time. I can't get hot under the collar when the Mods bin a post or an entire thread if it is called for.

And as 411A says, the originator can bin the whole thread...

[PPRuNe Pop]

Since you ask!

Military Aircrew A forum for the professionals who fly the non-civilian hardware, and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World are welcome.

Of late the forum has been mis-used, abused and generally gone down the tubes.

We have had trolls - who get banned permanently. Those posters who think that anything goes - their threads get deleted. Those who think their posts are the best thing since sliced bread, they get deleted. Then we get those who think that this forum somehow belongs to them and throw a wobbly, or those who deride the mods if their posts get moved to a different forum. So, it has to be said, WE decide what goes or where it goes to.

I have personally removed 19 posters (all of them trolls) permanently from this forum who had no idea what the word debate meant or who were totally childish and clearly thought that swearing and abusiveness to others was normal. Their understanding of normal always demonstrated that they were not.

We have recently had an Admin chat about the above and Danny has gone as far as to say that we should adopt a "slash and burn" policy in Mil. You may think this an exaggeration but I assure you it isn't.

Moderating this forum has become more necessary now than at any time in the past 11 years I have been here. It used to be the only forum that had a 'self moderating' action and was virtually left alone. Not anymore it seems. But, we would be pleased to see that return.

Many of the good guys have left us. Probably because they feel as we do that the 'quality' of postings has significantly dropped. Certainly the fun and banter has changed, in some instances, from the laughter getter to an excuse for perverted abuse.

We recognise that some individuals from other sites try to hi-jack the forum with their own puerile tosh. We are on to it.

The Mil forum must return to it's original purpose of giving voice to the three services in aviation.

Sorry as we are to say it, we will be adopting a more robust editing policy. We hold the reins and we intend to stop what amounts to a slow runaway forum by applying the brakes.

For those who do not like it - you will have to migrate. For those who cannot abide by the basic rules of PPRuNe will also have to decide what they want to do. We would prefer that they stay if they feel they can integrate and we would like to see the return of the 'friends of MIL' - the sooner the better.

The forum is yours if you play by the rules. They are not severe but they are rules. BTW, swearing in either the straight form or *** form is not acceptable, it is becoming all too common. Non-swearing is a standard PPRuNe rule.

As an ex WO I would dearly like and prefer a quiet word behind the hangar but this will have to do!

Finally, please accept that this is a take it or leave it. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

PPP

[The B Word]

PPrune Pop

I hear you on this matter but may I suggest a revision to your policy? How about a "3 strikes or you're out" policy? From what I read in your reply you will suspend anyone without warning? How are alleged offenders supposed to modify their behaviour if you just delete the posts and suspend their accounts - I would have thought a PM warning should be the first step?

You could always adopt a "points system" like DVLA?

Just a thought.

B Word

[PPRuNe Pop]

It is not MY policy. It is PPRuNe's policy. And I am not about to respond to any other posts on this subject - except one.

We have never given reasons for editorial actions or deletions. As for bans, that person will see any comment there is to make when he/she next logs in.

DVLA have thousands of 'moderators.' We are not about to increase our work. := Nice try!

[SRENNAPS]

PPRuNe Pop,

Many thanks for your initial reply. I totally agree with you.

I know over the years some of my posts have not exactly been whiter than white and I apologise for that. I do have a tendency to bite when I read some of the stuff put here these days.

However, please could I ask for some of the language here to be moderated? Minor language is fine in the right context but when people start using vulgar language it is quite offensive (and hiding it by using £$@ etc does not work).

My wife also enjoys reading some of the articles here, but when she reads something that includes a disguised version of the “c” word (which has been used on several occasions) she is quite sickened.
Thank you.

[L J R]

So thats cleared that up then, ......and so on with the usual banter - for those who remember what that is (was)...


Fair point by the Mods, some of he drivell is nothing short of appalling of late..

[wingcmdr]

Hear Hear Totally agree with the Mods.


Now about that Tesco (and any other reasonably priced supermarket) voucher I was promised :ok:

[Griz]

Naive moment.....what's a troll? (in this context obviously!)

[Eric T Cartman]

@ Griz
Wiki def = "In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion"
Plenty of them about ! :*

[Griz]

Sounds pretty much like everyone at happy hour!!!!

[RubiC Cube]

PPrune Pop

Well said. I know a few who are fed up with the abuse and crudeness which has become prevalent on this forum over the last few years. Keep up the good work.

RubiC

[pigsinspace]

over moderation can also remove a lot of the humour and characters on the board.

After all do you walk out of the crew room if the banter gets to much? I doubt it.

We are all adults here and either serving or ex serving ~(30 years here) I fail to get upset by a bit of banter or naughty language on the internet,

If I dont like it I just move on to the next subject.

[Surrey Towers]

Are you deliberately missing the point to justify your own ends? Get your head out of the sand.

Surely your life is not ALL banter is it? As the man says it is sometimes gets out of hand. One guy has already said that his wife finds some of it offensive. Fair enough?

As for 'naughty' language it's banned on PPRuNe. Not a bad thing when you see some of it either. I can eff and blind but not on here I don't!

[Tankertrashnav]

Just wondered what happened to the recent Ryanair/RAF ID thread? Did this get moved, or deleted for some reason? Mind you, my eyesight is going - maybe it's still there!

[Tappers Dad]

PPRuNe Pop

I have personally removed 19 posters (all of them trolls) permanently from this forum who had no idea what the word debate meant or who were totally childish and clearly thought that swearing and abusiveness to others was normal. Their understanding of normal always demonstrated that they were not.

Now I have no complaints personally about the way Pprune is being moderated in fact looking though other similar forums Pprune is an example how debate and exchanges of views can serve the greater good of the service men and women of this country without resorting to jumbled swear words.
There is of cause a however coming so here it is .
However reading through the TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF USE page I noticed this:

Postings do not reflect our views; and we do not have any obligation to monitor, edit, or review any Postings on the Site. We assume NO responsibility or liability arising from the content of any such Postings nor for any error, defamation, libel, slander, omission, falsehood, obscenity, pornography, profanity, danger, or inaccuracy contained in any information within such Postings on the Site.

It does appear that although you have no obligation to monitor edit or review you do so regularly and although you assume no responsibility for profanitiy's and obsenity you do regularly remove such postings.

Now under the Defamation Act 1996 as both the publisher and the author of defamatory material can be sued for making defamatory statements. This means that both us as posters and author of the content, and Pprune as the publisher, can be sued for defamation.

This would seem to imply that you as moderators do in fact have to assume responsibility or liability arising from the content of any such Postings and for any error, defamation, libel, slander.

In conclusion the Moderators are doing a good job of watching our backs and preventing posters from crossing the line ( I include myself in this) it maybe argued that in order to keep Pprune a bastinion of free discussion and exchanging of views that they should be tougher in their approach.
I would end by saying I am grateful to the moderators who have in the past curbed the hurtful jibes made by posters hiding behind their anonymity against families who have lost husbands,brothers and sons.

[PPRuNe Pop]

TD, you are right on the one hand and right on the other too - what happy position to be in!

This would seem to imply that you as moderators do in fact have to assume responsibility or liability arising from the content of any such Postings and for any error, defamation, libel, slander.


Yes, of course we do. We have to. We have to curb all of those things otherwise the site would drop into a morass of rubbish, and that's putting it mildly. Having said that, we rarely if ever edit a post, that is a no no - except to cut out profanities, but lately we are deleting such posts so that people get the message.

It was expected that some would not like the stance we are taking but the level of PM's I am receiving and the comments being made, show that overall people are pleased that we are after "the way we were" and very much in favour of it.

Thanks.

PPP

[SirPeterHardingsLovechild]

Deleting posts, threads and banning posters leads to confusion, and leads to 'Whatever happened to the xxx thread?'

It happened to me when XV179 Crew Tactics discussion got a bit too deep.

Just a suggestion.

Pop, why don't you quote the defendant (so that the offence remains visible) and he can't delete it.

Then make your statement about unacceptability, but offer the defendant the chance to apologise and/or give him a week in the Sin Bin (which you apparently do sometimes)

That's what grown ups would do. Apologise for the indiscretion and move on.

[Lima Juliet]

make your statement about unacceptability, but offer the defendant the chance to apologise and/or give him a week in the Sin Bin (which you apparently do sometimes)

That's what grown ups would do. Apologise for the indiscretion and move on.

This "Sin Bin" is what happened to me. I made an ill-judged comment on Beret wearing - pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things looking at some of the comments/issues on here. I then posted in what I thought was "banter" towards the Mods - no swearing and nothing politically incorrect. The result - Sin Bin (or the "cooler"!) for 7 days. I wrote to the Webmaster who decided that they would stand by their Mods - fair enough really, I suppose.

However, this all left me with a very bad feeling of being too harshly treated without adequate warning - the warning came with the ban!! Hence, I posted in my "hissy fit" state about a fortnight ago that I was finished with Prune - whilst I still feel agrieved, I don't feel alone as this would also appear to be happening to others.

If I'm going to the "Cooler" for another week - at least let me take my baseball and glove this time :ok:

LJ

[Wholigan]

I assume that when you say "twice deleted the comments of Flt Lt Anderton on the General McCrystal debate", you are not trying to imply that there is a thread somewhere on General McCrystal (sic)and that Flt Lt Anderton has commented on it and the mods have deleted those comments. I also assume that you really meant that there were 2 threads about Flt Lt Anderton's statement/question to General McChrystal that the mods have deleted.

If you actually read the second thread, started by ORAC (now the only one remaining and closed not deleted), it was stated there by me that the originator of the first thread deleted this thread himself! It was called 'Courage!' and was started by LFFT. Ask him!
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/390921-flight-lieutenant-victoria-anderton.html (http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/390921-flight-lieutenant-victoria-anderton.html)

ORAC's thread was closed because the topic had been discussed to death in the original thread!

This hardly warrants the wild accusation that "the moderators destroy even the slightest controversial subject". If you have something blindingly exciting and new to state about this event, then please feel free to start another thread, which will stand or fall on its own merit. If, however, the thread merely ends up repeating all the stuff that was on the original thread, it might not prove to have been worth the effort.

[Al R]

I find it strange that a thread is deleted simply because it had been 'discussed to death'.. after all, is that not the intention of niche messageboards, and anyway, what harm does it do by remaining on strength? If no one wants to discuss it anymore, having had it been discussed to death, surely it just fades away anyway, as do the hundreds of others in the same situation?

Its not the role of moderators to completely stop a thread because some content may be repetitive (after all, what about the Chinook/Formula 1/Crickets threads elsewhere)? I take the point that a thread starter may have stopped one of the threads, but whatever you think about her actions, this is a subject relating to expression that does have ramifications and might affect how others are feeling/thinking of acting.

Respectfully,

Al.

[Wholigan]

The starter of the original thread deleted it because it was "getting too detailed" and bitty. The situation at the time the second thread was closed was that it happened at almost exactly the same time as the first thread was deleted by the thread starter, and my thinking at the time was that there was no point in just starting the same old stuff all over again straight away.

If you would like the opportunity to discuss this matter further though, I have resurrected ORAC's thread and bumped it for you.

Happy now?

However, if it gets into the absolute nonsense that was in the original thread, I reserve the right to dump it! ;)

[Al R]

Dear Wholy,

You are impossibly gentlemanly and gracious, and I therefore demand that you step down forthwith.

[anita gofradump]

This hardly warrants the wild accusation that "the moderators destroy even the slightest controversial subject". If you have something blindingly exciting and new to state about this event, then please feel free to start another thread, which will stand or fall on its own merit. If, however, the thread merely ends up repeating all the stuff that was on the original thread, it might not prove to have been worth the effort.

Or just delete someone's post because you didn't like it?

"It's my football and I'm not going in goal"

And there was nothing controversial in my post at 0839 this morning. You lot (moderators) are trashing the art of open debate.

:ugh:

[shack]

I would love to add to anita gofradump's You lot (moderators) are trashing the art of open debate. But I fear that whatever I write will be moderated (that's a good word) out since that is the way that things are going nowdays----with even moderators moderating moderators!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks Shack - we discussed this so I hope you don't mind me changing it?

[Ewan Whosearmy]

Does posting in red make you more important?

[Wholigan]

No Ewan it doesn't. It shows that it is a post by me in moderator mode rather than me in "me" mode. This post is one in "me" mode.

[sisemen]

Is it me or is this thread getting more and more like a Monty Python sketch? I refer, of course, to the "Argument" sketch.

And the reason that this is in green is because it's a nice day and I felt like it :E

[bowly]

Green? This must be the 'combat' thread.....

[Whossat Forrus]

Keep up the good work Wholy, you do a fine job.

[Tappers Dad]

Perhaps the Moderators can redact rather than remove things, therefore when I say all moderators are (1) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx , it won't appear but it will give people the chance to see I do have an opinion on the (2) xxxxxxxxxxx moderators. This could be used to moderate swear words or complete sentences, and is also in a form we are used to seeing.
Just a thought, if you don't agree you can (3) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

Unredacted=(1) a great bunch of guys doing a hard job.
Unredacted=(2) skillful moderators.
Unredacted=(3) say what you think freely.
:ok:

[The B Word]

Wholigan

Thanks for listening to us whine and being big enough to change course. Maybe you could have a "mods get-together" to discuss the current scheme of moderation as over the past couple of months this has attracted a recurring thread?

I too am a fan of open debate within the PC guidelines that we all know [and love!] these days. I do believe that the current "moderation scheme" is stiffling debate at times.

All the best

B Word

[Sgt.Slabber]

Wholigan,

Why the red text? :yuk:

[Shack37]

Sgt. Slabber wrote

Wholigan,

Why the red text? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/pukey.gif



Try reading posts 8 & 9

[10W]

Sgt Slabber, there is an answer in the thread.

Siseman, don't write in green. Wholi will think his missus has found the keys to this Forum :}

[johnfairr]

Dubs, :ok::ok:

Out of interest, when I first joined PPRuNe, the Mil Thread was self-moderating. Don't object to Mods, in fact I think they're quite nice chaps/chapesses, who spread wisdom, understanding, largesse and Nigerian Lager around in equal doses. Just my thoughts, feel free to report me or disagree!:E

[Romeo Oscar Golf]

Well, whatever you say I still prefer gas barbecues, and I find them more manly.:p

[PPRuNe Pop]

TD. We have a code we work to. Or try to. The new owners pretty much leave us to it based on that. However, there does come a time, all too often sometimes, when an unpopular action has to be made. It usually goes down like a ton of bricks because the poster feels that it was his right to either abuse us mods, abuse others, use snide, swear openly or be just downright rude and obnoxious - none of which, of course, will be allowed.

We don't look for anything other than to ensure that the site remains the fine site it is and has been made to be over the past 13 years or so, and all achieved by goodwill and good attitudes - most of the time.

It all boils down to realising that this not a site for freedom of speech in the way that some would like. In fact Danny has always made it clear that there is no freedom of speech at all on PPRuNe, more a question of saying as much as you like, how you like until it offends or abuses. Then it might well get a shove elsewhere or in the bin!

It's not too much to bear for the benefit of all is it?

[anita gofradump]

Understood, completely.

But Pop, are you able to clarify the reasons for the removal of my post from earlier this morning?

I asked another Mod but he was unable to see any note on the removal.

Regards.

[taxydual]

Ah, new owners, filthy lucre. 'nuff said.

[shack]

Could I please suggest in an effort to bring this all to a close that if one looks back over a few months at the comments that it would appear that something has changed in the attitude/rulings/mods and that is affecting contributors. Ok, so as I have know for the past 12 or so years it is not my train set but could it be that all is not right in the state of Rome and it is making folk like me, a worried product of Trenchard (if one of the Mods does not know what this you should not be Moderating) ponder about the future not only about the site but our Service.

[Al R]

The decision making is subjective, you might argue about it, but its their call at the end of the day. But when threads can simply dissapear without an offer of an explanation or any communication, thats just bad manners.

I sympathise with Wholy who makes the effort to let people know when he has his mod hat on, by writing in red. I wasn't sure why that happened, but I do appreciate the thought. Wouldn't it be far better to have a seperate mod identity that everyone knew was the voice of the mod so that there was a distinct seperation between an individual's role and their role as a mod?

It would also mean that the person posting as the 'mod' would be doing so anonymously and with the full authority of the board, thereby minimising any personal perspectives that might get in the way.

[Madbob]

Just what kind of CV does one need to become a Moderator on PPRuNe?

Specifically, for this Military Aircrew Forum, does one need to have served in one of Her Majesty's armed forces?

Just a thought....

MB

[Wholigan]

Just what kind of CV does one need to become a Moderator on PPRuNe?

Just so you know, here's my Service history:


Joined Feb 64 South Cerney
JP3 & 4 course Syerston
Gnat course Valley
Hunter course chivenor
Hunters West Raynham
Hunters Bahrein
Hunters Chivenor
CF104s Canada
Jaguars Lossiemouth
Jaguars Bruggen
Jaguar desk officer Rheindahlen
Sqn Ldr Ops Wittering
JSDC Greenwich
MoD Army
MoD Nuclear shop
Harriers OC Ops Wg Wittering
Loan service staff officer Malaysia
Advanced Staff Course staff Bracknell
OC Intermediate Command and Staff Course at Bracknell, then Henlow, then Shrivenham
Left service and rejoined immediately FTRS to run AEF. Still doing it but finish next Feb.

I have at various times been a PAI (and tought the course), an FWI (and ditto), a QWI (and ditto), an IRE, a CIRE and a (cough, spit, splutter, retch) QFI. :E;)

So yes I am an old fart but I don't feel old yet and I don't ever pretend to know everything, or despair about the "yoof of today in the RAF". In fact I remain impressed by the quality of young person that continues to join the RAF as a career.

I try to call on things that I have seen or done in my past RAF career and in my private life to decide if posts are good, bad or indifferent, and tend only to remove stuff that is really stupid, insulting, attacking of others or could possibly damage PPRuNe. The prime role of moderators is to defend PPRuNe from people who wittingly or unwittingly post stuff that could reduce the reputation of the board or bring it into conflict with the legal world. I try to use common sense to achieve these aims.

I realise that I will not always get it right and I don't believe that you should expect me to. I do expect a bit of common courtesy though if you disagree with what I do, and - rather than posting a whining, attacking post - try to PM me and, as you have seen already, I am always open to suggestions and I am not above admitting that I got it wrong.

As far as an "anonymous moderator" is concerned, whether you have known it or not, there have always been anonymous moderators of the Mil Forum, and there still are. I have very recently rejoined the PPRuNe mod fold and - for whatever reason - I have become the "front man" in here. The one who will take the majority of the flak from the punters because I am in the limelight. I am old enough and have broad enough shoulders and a thick enough skin to be able to take it. It is - of course - now too late to have me be an anonymous moderator, because you all know that the "new" anonymous one would be me.

Furthermore, I have never "hidden" my identity since the day I first joined PPRuNe, as a very large number of people know who "Wholigan" is for real.

So basically I will try my best to get it right and if you have a problem with what I do, PM me. People are already doing that.

Thanks for your time.

Roj

[cornish-stormrider]

Wholigan & Pop,

While I have the utmost respect for the mods in trying to keep it clean and open I have a question.

it has been acknowledged by many that I do, on occasion, swear. If that is bad then I expect to be "moderated", does that appyly to phrases such as "Bullsh*t Bob". I mean it is obvious what has been removed but the thrust (fnarr) of my question is there a blanket ban on swearing or is it looked at on a context basis and the level of insult?

Because Banter had swearing in my crewrooms.

Keep up the good work

CS

I know, cooler - two weeks :E

[PPRuNe Pop]

Well said, Roj. I agree with all he says.

Btw I have 18 years in early army aviation and other arms. Beyond that I don't think there is any points except my other aviation activities.

And......we also have a Lt.Col as a mod plus .

But when threads can simply dissapear without an offer of an explanation or any communication, thats just bad manners.


No it isn't. That is just one of the ground rules of modding and is meant to say that we do not enter into any arguments about our actions - the threads would be too long!

Swearing is not acceptable in any of its forms and was something we had pressed home to us a few years ago. That started because some complete idiots thought it was OK to use the f word and c word with impunity. Other words are often grassed over but their meaning is the same and so long as it doesn't go too far too often we can shut one eye, and do.

Roj was typing as I was!!! But in unison;)

[Wholigan]

In fact, the site policy on swearing is that it is a no-no, as this is not a crewroom but rather it is a public forum.

Unnecessary swearing, foul swear words, or the use of swearing to attack another person will always be frowned upon. Phrases such as you suggest above are - in my opinion - OK as it appears that that particular phrase seems to have been accepted as the "definer" of that person.

Swearing will always be considered in context and acted upon accordingly. Prepare to be surprised or "outraged" on occasion. ;)

[Madbob]

Wholigan,

MB saying thank you for a very comprehansive answer to my post. BTW, if you are who I think that you are we have flown together in a 233 OCU T4 on a couple of occasions in 1989.

Happy days!

[Flap62]

Wholigan,

Your double standards are appalling!!

You take offence to the use of industrial language yet you casually drop profanities like "QFI" into your post.

Look to yourself Sir!!

[Wholigan]

. ;)

[x213a]

Advanced Staff Course staff Bracknell

I bet you know some funky acronyms and TLAs!:ok:

[Winch-control]

Nicely said and very fair....

[John Purdey]

PPRuNe Pop. Very interseting discussion, but to whom are you answerable? JP

[Wholigan]

Moderators are responsible to the site owners via the previous owners, who are now essentially the site general managers.

Believe me they take great interest in what we do and how we do it.

[jindabyne]

Roj,

I love you dear chap,

Moderators are responsible to the site owners via the previous owners, who are now essentially the site general managers.

But WTF does that mean?

[Pontius Navigator]

Roj,

I love you dear chap,

But WTF does that mean?

The train set's previous owner still gets to play station master?

[Wholigan]

Exactly !

[SirPeterHardingsLovechild]

My personal scrape with the Mods was when the XV179 debate reared its head after the MOD announced it wasn't contesting the compensation claim. With a large prod from me, the debate turned towards the other two contributary factors - Crew Tactics & Int. Apparently a relative complained, and the complete thread was deleted. And another two threads soon after.

I realise I'm not entitled to an explanation, but the debate was supressed, maybe the truth was supressed, and the relatives motive may not have been grief, but a different agenda.

I loves me PPRuNe, read it every day, but felt a dangerous injustice was done that day.

[anita gofradump]

I get the same feeling from time to time but hate the notion that I am turning into a conspiracy theorist. I'm sure the explanation for the odd post removal is much simpler and comes down to swearing or possibly legal reasons.

I also understand the time that would be consumed providing explanations to all of the offending posters but there have been occasions when I simply don't understand why a post was removed.

Maybe some experimentation is required?

:E

[PPRuNe Pop]

We put our chemistry sets away a loooong time ago! But you certainly have the principle right.

Just lie back and enjoy it - it's not all bad. For you or us. :D

[PPRuNe Pop]

You have it in one. We would not delete the whole thread, but we would most certainly delete the post and probably put him on a short term ban to remind him of his responsibilities when he signed up to PPRuNe.

Does make you wonder doan it.

[BEagle]

That started because some complete idiots thought it was OK to use the f word and c word

Those would be 'Falklands' and 'Christmas', I guess?

The Moderators do an excellent job; long may they continue to do so*!










*Where do I apply for the £5 note, PP and Wholi'?

[barnstormer1968]

After reading your CV, I have a serious bone to pick with you sir!
I note you worked in a nuclear shop!. If some of the lock knives in my local
outdoor shop are illegal, then I shudder to think about the stuff you sold, and the
kind of customers who visited. It kind of makes a chav with a fighting dog seem
suddenly tame:}

[Wholigan]

Pity I didn't manage to nick a few or I could have sold you a couple to deal with your local chav problems mate. ;)

And cheque's in the post BEags.

[Capetonian]

I was placed in the 'sin bin' for making derogatory remarks about a certain woman's physical appearance. My remarks were no worse than many others that appear daily in other threads, in fact I think the only thing wrong with my remark is that it insulted the animal with which I compared this woman.

However, this all left me with a very bad feeling of being too harshly treated without adequate warning - the warning came with the ban!! Hence, I posted in my "hissy fit" state about a fortnight ago that I was finished with Prune - whilst I still feel agrieved, I don't feel alone as this would also appear to be happening to others.

So there we have it. I'm in the 'hissy fit' state right now.

[L J R]

I noticed that this Forum had a 'mod' in 2003 - during the Spring Offensive of that year. I also note NOW that there is nominated Moderator.- Agree that this is not MY train set, and that Pop et al say their piece every now and then (their train set) - Are there any 'new' rules?, especially given the amount of 'sin-binned' posters who may step over the boundary with THEIR interpretation of 'Banter' ...?

[hisnamesake]

I think the moderation on this forum is a lot more even handed and fair compared to the JB, forum. At JB they are like children with not enough to do. Titles of threads changed, threads and posts disappearing, closing threads with no explanation, all with monotonous regularity, banning, you name it, they're at it. I don't even bother sticking my oar in there anymore.

The "stable" is the height of instability.

Yes it's their train set and they can have it.

[Pontius Navigator]

HNS, agree, I was sin binned in a diffeent forum much to the surprise of a Mod here who was present at the time.

I know why it happened and it was a people thing rather than what I had said. That mod was operating to a rigid set of rules and no deviation had been permitted.

[Wholigan]

Thought that since there were two threads about mods up and running simultaneously I'd put them together.

You might also get some "new" questions and knocking methods if you peruse these old threads from 2003 and 2007. ;)


http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/87462-moderators-dictators-taste.html


http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/271230-question-moderators.html

I guess not a whole lot changes over the years really.

[Romeo Oscar Golf]

I guess not a whole lot changes over the years really.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Wholigan/Me2.jpg

Colour pictures were invented.
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[Al R]

Is mod knock a bit like tank slap?

[kenparry]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Wholigan/Me2.jpg

Unless I'm much mistaken, Gibraltar, about 1968. What's more, he looks younger now than he did then!!

KP

[BEagle]

Chum of mine did once 'slap' a tank...

During a posting with the folk who used to creep around various parts of East Germany, some boffin wanted to know how thick the armour was on some Sovietski tankski. So they gave him a device and told him to press it against the tank, press the tit and it would take a reading.

They didn't quite tell him everything though.

Chum finally found out where one of these tanks was parked, crept out in the dead of night with the boffin's toy, pressed it against the tank and pressed the tit.

A loud 'BOOOOOIIIIINNNNG' came from the device, which was obviously some sonar system. Chum legged it sharpish and about half-a-heartbeat later the turret hatch flew open and a dazed East German tank mate peered out in terror wondering what the hell had just woken him up..... It seems their crews sleep with their horses and/or tanks!

Nothing to do with moderators, who are all very fine chaps indeed!! But whenever anyone mentions tanks, I have this image of our amateur snoop waking up the East German tankie with that bit of boffinry!

[DKP1]

Should this thread be removed for repeated swearing and repeated (intended) comments on the same subject? i.e. done to death :ugh::ugh:
:ok:

[PPRuNe Pop]

You have a point, but we thought you might like a bit of fun. :ugh: :E

[Wholigan]

Colour pictures were invented.


Ooooh you are cruel R O G. ;)

But fatter Ken!

[Radar66]

4th October 2009, 15:44

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