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onhmss
17th Sep 2009, 03:33
Anyone with any experience of particular sms software packages ?


Any info would be welcome,

Thanks.

Highflyer2007
17th Sep 2009, 09:10
I know an Austrian company which developed a software package managing your SMS. Even the Austrian NAA Austro Control recommends that provider. PM me and will provide you with more details and an email adress to write to for an offer. brgds

tezzer
18th Sep 2009, 06:44
Try www.aql.com (http://www.aql.com)

aeroground
21st Sep 2009, 10:18
using AIRS system very user friendly pm me for ctc details

EGBKFLYER
21st Sep 2009, 15:16
My employer has just started to use AQD:

Superstructure Group - AQD :: Overview (http://www.superstructuregroup.com/aqd.aspx)

Seems OK on what I've seen so far.

Flann1gan
22nd Sep 2009, 15:18
Emirates, Finnair and the UKCAA all use Q-Pulse. for their Aviation Safety Management Software (http://www.gaelquality.com/aviation-safety-quality.asp).

EGBKFLYER
23rd Sep 2009, 16:30
Have used QPulse too - very similar to AQD...

Ghostdancer
24th Sep 2009, 18:34
I have used both AQD and Q-Pulse.

In my opinion there are pluses and minuses to both systems atnd a lot will boil down to personal preference.

Q-Pulse was originally developed as a QMS tool. Version 5 is far superior to Version 4 and is great for QMS, while Gael have also now developed a Flight Occurrence Reporting tool. However this is in its infancy & in my opinion further improvements could be made.

AQD until recently, had the advantage of having a single system to look after QMS and Flight Safety data. Recent enhncements make it look like Microsoft Office and make it more user friendly. There is also an interface with Aerobytes FDM software but you have to pay a little extra. The main limitation with AQD is that the checklists are built in Microsoft Access so some of the fields have character limitations. I am told this can be overcome & intend to get the IT department on the case. The Risk Matrix can be configured as you wish.

If you really want to do SMS Risk Analysis properly you might like to have a look at BowTie XP. Unfortunately for bolt on tools are not great.

So there you have it, in an aviation environment maybe AQD just shades it, but I would recoomend you consider both.

oZAvi8tor
15th Oct 2009, 04:09
Hi Guys

In addition to AQD & QPulse, it would be worth your while taking a look at OSMS, developed and supported by Omnisafe International (OmniSafe International Home (http://www.omnisafeintl.com)). Ive worked with the product extensively in my role as Safety Manager in 2 seperate organisations and it really is a fantastic product for SMS. I know it competes really well against AQD & QPulse both on price and functionality. It is extremely comprehensive but easy to use.

It is a 100% secure web based system which means nothing has to get installed on your pc/notebook and can be accessed from any location. If you are anything like me and are always travelling, this is a big bonus.

I know that Omnisafe has an installation base with the OSMS product across many regions worldwide and the installation, training and product support is second to none. I recall when we went through the selection criteria for an SMS, these guys went above and beyond to ensure it met our requirements.

Just thought id share my experience with all of you and provide an alternative to extremely expensive SMS systems which are equally as difficult to use.

Shell Management
27th Oct 2010, 18:50
This system was demostrated at the last Helitech:
SMART Insight? (http://www.smartglobalsolutions.com/insight.htm)
It was written by ex Shell advisors around the Shell Aviation SMS concept upon which CAP712 and the ICAO SMM were based but with a full safety case capability. It is very good value too I'm told.

I see from their web site:



In the U.K. the Health and Safety Executive has published Pabaic Strategic Objective 2: Safety Management Systems which states that before March 2011 "all employers should demonstrate a continuously improving health and safety management performance when benchmarked using a suitable benchmarking tool." This document also specifies that every employer needs to:
"Set a clear policy for health and safety"
"Organise your staff for managing health and safety"
"Plan for health and safety by setting targets and objectives, identifying hazards, assessing risks and establishing standards against which you can measure your performance"
"Measure your health and safety performance in the just the same way that you already measure production or sales"
"Periodically audit and review how well you are doing so that you can decide how to improve"These requirements apply to any one flying an aircraft into the UK too.:ok:

Shell Management
4th Nov 2010, 22:42
Another good tool, ideal for doing safety cases is Bow Tie XP:
BowTieXP (http://www.governors.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=37)
They have a lot of great partner companies to help you implement a safety case.

Ghostdancer
27th Nov 2010, 07:33
Note: CAP 712 was withdrawn by the UK CAA several years ago, so you should not be listing it as reference material. The current SMS guidance material can be found on the UK CAA with a checklist.

The last time I checked both CAP 715 & 716 were stilled available for download.

Shell Management
28th Nov 2010, 14:55
@ghostdancer

It is sad that such a fine document was withdrawn by CAA. :ugh:
I supose a new generation of beauracrats will reinvent the wheel.:rolleyes:

As it is not legislation it can be still referenced, just like any out of print book. :ok:

In fact it forms the core of CAP723, used by airports & ATC providers, who have made far more SMS progress.;)

yaverona
21st Jan 2011, 08:41
Hi,

We started to work these guys. Flight Data Monitoring (FDM / FOQA) service provider. (http://www.fdmpulse.com/). They have very good price scheme and friendly.

marko888
3rd May 2016, 13:43
What are the prices for such softwares for small airline (50 employees)?

FlyANA
4th May 2016, 12:02
What are you looking for? FDM programs are dependant on fleet size and require hardware + software

Programs like AQD and QPULSE are more reporting databases and aimed at the large airlines with huge sector numbers. That could easily be replicated by excel sheets/folders/SQL databases if it's a small airline with low sectors/reports per year. If you make these yourself it'll be cheaper, more relevant to your operation and you'll have more control.

marko888
4th May 2016, 19:36
I'm looking for SMS and QMS software solutions. Just wanted to hear some thoughts on how much they usually cost for smaller airlines. If it's expensive it's better to use our own methods (excel sheets), I agree.

flingwing1
20th May 2016, 13:48
I suggest you take a look at SMS Pro out of Alaska. They've been around for years and started their software from a clean sheet made expressly for aviation. Their program has a clean look, is relatively fast (note my location) and their top of the line version has 50+ modules. That covers just about all the needs you'd have to keep you SMS under control. Price depends on how many modules you need and how many employees you have.

SMS Pro works and service from their programmers is very fast and helpful.